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meddevi March 17 2011, 20:56:56 UTC
I think #1 is a big issue for artists, and it's great to see how different people do it (like I have an arts-based "day" job and then everything else), and I think #3 is also a great topic. #2 is sorta overdone IMHO.

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lindenfoxcub March 17 2011, 21:31:12 UTC
I really only have thoughts on number 2, because it's something I think about a lot, and music is the most recognizable example for me. I write fiction, and I have a friend who writes fiction and is taking a creative writing degree and we argue about this all the time. She tends to like work that you have to delve into and study to get the meaning of it, stuff where the meaning is not obvious. Then she writes stories where the meaning is there in her mind, but doesn't get onto the page, and then is frustrated when people have no idea what the point of the story is and ends up putting something at the end of the story that outlines "this is what this story means," that ends up really awkward sounding ( ... )

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amigoid March 17 2011, 23:00:17 UTC
Does being a full time professional artist hurt, or enhance art? When your art becomes your soul source of income, suddenly you find yourself making decisions based on what will best support you. Meanwhile, having a day job means you have precious little time for your art, and it often gets the lowest priority in your life.

Should art be open to interpretation, or is art best when it thoroughly conveys the meanings or emotions of its creator?

Over the last 80 years, craftsmanship has switched from “create beautiful and lasting works” to “create cheap to produce, and therefore profitable works”. This has effected everything from architecture, to screenplays. Has this new minimalist “form over function”, "cost over aesthetics" idealism been a positive effect on art, or the death of it?1. The best of the three, as I think it gives the best opportunity for you to put your personal experience and viewpoint into the discussion ( ... )

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canray March 18 2011, 02:50:30 UTC
Honestly, the more people talking about 3 the better.

We're getting GARBAGE today. Music, buildings, vehicles, everything! Pure and utter garbage. Doesn't look good, doesn't work properly... The only "Art" that I've seen around are computer cases, and even they aren't much of an improvement over beige boxes.

One of the reasons I'm a fan of your own work. You've taken time and effort just to work on aesthetics. Your recording studio (The one shown on your website) alone shows that.

So, you're an excellent spokesperson for the Function over Form and the need to placate more than just the Lowest Common Denominator as cheaply as possible. I wouldn't say it's the death of art, but it certainly has taken it from high society to walking the streets like a common tart.

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pandoradeloeste March 18 2011, 03:34:42 UTC
I have to agree with amigoid; 3 doesn't actually seem to be asking a serious question. OTOH, that means it's a great jumping-off point to start talking about steampunk culture and aesthetic, which is all about taking cheap mass-produced products and making them your own beautiful works of art, and how that can be considered a response to the trend towards the cheap and profitable art that the question is criticizing. (It's also a great opportunity to quote "Throw Them Overboard", especially the bits about how this society's technology is an aesthetic anthropophogy)

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robert_from_ap March 18 2011, 03:48:52 UTC
It's only not a serious question if you are a Steampunk. For years a rubbed shoulders with corporate graphic designers and product designers that swear Funtuction should be the ONLY design concern. In fact, our world is mostly built by designers who believe that "no design is good design".

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