[update] Far and Far From Land

Aug 31, 2007 22:43

I tweaked one of the stories I wrote earlier -- added a scene from another story that fit there better, altered a few lines to bring it more in line with the ficton as it had developed, etc.

Far and Far From Land
-setting- AU more or less tracking canon from the beginning of first season, ending before "The Return" would have happened. Gen.
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fanfiction, zophonisbeion

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eliyes December 12 2007, 09:40:23 UTC
So, okay, Rodney's family, in this story, were slaves on the one hand and selkies on the other, as the things he is passing as being not? And when did he tell Ford, since Ford seemed to already know before it came up the first time?

I like the thing with John's family having been endogamous for so long; it neatly explains his gene, in a way. (Although the way they have ATA set up, it is one gene which you have or you don't, and thus cannot logically be "stronger" in one person or another...)

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saphanibaal December 12 2007, 13:13:09 UTC
//So, okay, Rodney's family, in this story, were slaves on the one hand and selkies on the other, as the things he is passing as being not?//

Well... they were that and the Other-Thing-Not-Appearing-In-This-Story -- and Leesy and James McKay's kids went out and took spouses from among the people they were passing as, so even with succeeding endogamous marriages it winds up being the sort of drop-in-the-bucket thing that another family might have easily forgotten. I'm fairly sure Rodney checks the "Caucasian" box on official forms without really thinking about it -- as far as he's concerned, that's not something he's passing as by this point, although he'd use the verb for the relevant sets of great- and great-great-grandparents. (The inbreeding on Leesy's side, while not something you bring up unless trying to reassure someone that it isn't as bad as it could be, falls more under the category of "ugly family secret" than "masquerade ( ... )

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eliyes December 13 2007, 02:15:02 UTC
The thing with writing a multistory AU is that every so often you have to hang guns on the wall that aren't fired in a given episode, because they were there in the last episode and will be there in the next and someday WILL be a plot point -- some of my favorite series, written or televisual, have payoffs at the end from lines back at the very beginning of the story, and I try with my poor skills to emulate as much.

I like that you do this, because it gives your stories a lot of depth, but I'm the kind of person who calls out questions at the TV when I spot that in a show. ^^; It doesn't mean I don't enjoy it, it just means I've noticed it and am hoping to see it explained or developed at some point, pretty much.

Okay, your spackle explanation makes a hell of a lot more sense that what they say in the show, to the point that I was already nodding halfway through, anticipating that final sentence.

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When did Ford Know...? You ask term "PASSING" or "Pass" macgmini April 4 2021, 08:12:42 UTC
This is a great story about mixed-race => SciFi mixed-species and the emotional baggage/issues/emotions/ confusion/etc it engenders ( ... )

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ceitie December 12 2007, 12:35:08 UTC
Okay, so I basically just read almost of your AU stories in one go this morning. I'd read a couple of them before, but I hadn't understood them really well because I didn't really understand the other 'verse, how it all fit together. Even now, there's plenty of things I don't completely understand just because I don't know all the references and a lot of the linguistic stuff goes right over my head ( ... )

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saphanibaal December 12 2007, 15:01:16 UTC
//Even now, there's plenty of things I don't completely understand just because I don't know all the references and a lot of the linguistic stuff goes right over my head.//

Sigh. I never know how much to endnote, and when I'm focused too much on the story itself I forget that it even needs doing. ;_;

//But I just wanted to say [...] how much I love this world you've created.//

Thank you so very much!

//Maybe I don't mind because the focus is almost never really on their differences exactly, but on their connections to each other.//

Something like Lin Carter's corollary to John W. Campbell's dictum (which I've always thought was embodied most closely in the differences between the anime series Mazinger, Gundam, and Patlabor: 1. Ooh, look! Giant robot! 2. Okay, assume the existence of giant robots; tell me a story about a world where giant robots exist! 3. Okay, assume giant robots and a world where they exist; now tell me about the people who live in a world to which giant robots are endemic!) Often, when people get ideas like " ( ... )

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rassatar December 17 2007, 01:53:16 UTC
SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!11 ( ... )

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I'm sorry I didn't receive this comment in anything like a timely manner. saphanibaal June 6 2008, 05:20:16 UTC
Thank you so much for your kind compliments!

I am writing more whenever bits of it will consent to be so written, although every so often I get distracted by the dinosaur story or parodic crack or the AU where they're detectives.

In re incubus: I think Trinityofone wrote a story that used that name for it and the taking images from other people's subconsciouses, but as that was out in the real world rather than dreams, I wasn't exactly thinking of it at the time (although it may very well have been in the back of my head when I was casting about for random examples).

And if anything I've done has caused people to go read things I've read and loved, I'm really happy for that. ^_^

In short: thank you so much, I'm trying to come up with more, and I'm glad you wrote and told me what you liked about this!

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eliyes February 4 2008, 14:40:40 UTC
Something suddenly occurred to me! Would the Rodney with Old Elizabeth have survived? He could have escaped, being able to swim. He might not have made it to the surface, I suppose. Getting to a jumper would do him no good as he wouldn't have had the ATA treatment yet. Still...

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for some reason, this didn't auto-mail itself to me saphanibaal June 6 2008, 05:12:05 UTC
Er -- bottom of the ocean, remember? I'm pretty sure he'd have been one flat seal had he gotten out of the city. (I'm not sure it would have happened as filmed, actually -- the water would have to be under a lot of pressure, and I'd think it'd be more likely to lift people up and paste them across the ceiling rather than drown them. OTOH, the air didn't actually have much of anywhere to go to, and I suppose the city might have been able to keep the pressure down even if it could no longer keep the water out.)

Whatever the possibilities of crushing, drowning on the long way up, or miraculously surviving... all alone... without anything that gave his life meaning... though, I'm pretty sure they were regular guests in Rodney's parade of nightmares after Other-Elizabeth talked to them. ;_;

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Awww... donahermurphy January 24 2009, 20:16:19 UTC
"The point is, Dr. Frankenstein jumps ahead into trying to create life without thinking about what he's going to do with it once he's got it, and when he does, it can't fit in anywhere and is neither fish nor fowl nor good red herring, until it goes on a destructive rampage because nobody will treat it -- I mean him, the creature -- like a person ( ... )

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Re: Awww... saphanibaal January 29 2009, 21:03:27 UTC
//That's our Rodney, in some respects.//

Huh. I suppose that is there -- and, probably, the issue with his genitor may be influencing him -- but honestly, this bit was more of a reaction on my part to the Michael Arc of Suck. Which isn't going to happen that way in the Zophonisbeion proper.

After all, Frankenstein (the movie) is pretty much up there as an example of Not What An Ethical Scientist Does, especially when something as silly as Young Frankenstein has a far more responsible doctor.

//they really did seem to want to make sure to instill useful moral values.//Well, they know perfectly well what it's like when you don't... you might run off and join the Teleological Heresiarchy for Really Unbelievable Statistical Hubris. Or infiltrate the north of Egypt, take over the Great House, and turn around and enslave your cousins because they're too stiff-necked for your taste. Or seduce someone who's smokingly hot, even when the balance of power is such that the seducee is unlikely to be able to give full and informed consent and ( ... )

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etanol February 17 2009, 21:44:16 UTC
I found this through a recquest on sgastoryfinders. I was expecting crackfic or badly written drama with plotholes the size of Australia. Instead I found a well written, beautiful team story. I loved the themes of storytelling and family (biological & self-made) and identity.

I love being pleasantly surprised. This totally made my day.

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etanol February 17 2009, 21:45:10 UTC
Also, the Princess Bride references and all those other little bits of their personal pop culture canon totally made the characters.

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saphanibaal February 18 2009, 00:26:52 UTC
Why, thank you! I'm glad that it worked for you.

(I was a little surprised myself, when I realized where my plot idea of "oh, and Rodney is a selkie" had taken me.)

In re sgastoryfinders -- I'm always surprised, both to see what pieces of a story people remember (and perhaps put the wrong interpretation on), and that other people are able to recognize them from the descriptions anyway.

//Also, the Princess Bride references and all those other little bits of their personal pop culture canon totally made the characters.//

So many of the people I know relate to the world through their perceptions of pop culture that it seemed a natural method to use. ^_^

Once again, thank you for commenting!

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