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[say_kiss]

Girls are one big fucking contradiction. Hence the reggression of my attitude. Apparantly, i had it right before when i was in highschool

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[anonymous]

There is only a small percentage of guys that are actually "dicks"

[pags411]

Again, the point of the post is that a lot of times in relationships one person goes in wanting something other than what they're getting involved in. Jake is showing this in an example with that quote above. Girls say they want things like that...but when they have that, something always goes wrong. The point of guys actually being dicks is moot in this discussion primarily because we're interested in the scenarios when the guy was just himself, and the girl, in turn, messes things up later on using the guy for a scapegoat. The MOST frustrating aspect of this situation is when the girl becomes histrionic. What she saw happen isn't necessarily what actually took place. The girl then proceeds to justify her position, and at the same time undermine her dellusional view of an "opponent" by any means necessary. Typically this is executed efficiently thourgh away messages, tissue parties w/ other girls or homosexuals, or by watching the OC until they are convinced that SOMEDAY they will be happy- they'll just keep fucking with

[say_kiss]

Oroginal Post - "The girl then proceeds to justify her position, and at the same time undermine her dellusional view of an "opponent" by any means necessary."

Seriously, dont attach a negative stigma to a guy you once dated, just becuase he hurt you unintentionally. Its like as soon as a couple breaks up, the girl just views their entire relationship differently, seeing all the things he did as devious.

[anonymous]

also, try to find a guy who thinks he is one of these 'dicks'... i sure can't

[anonymous]

I've noticed a pattern with guys that is very interesting to me: If a guy meets a girl and feels attracted to her, but doesn't have success taking things to a "romantic level", he will tend to think about that woman and how to "try again" to get her attention, EVEN WHEN IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL, AND THERE ARE MANY OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AROUND HIM. I think that this is probably some kind of survival mechanism gone wrong. But whatever it is, it's a pain in the ass if you ask me.In about 98% of cases, it's much better to just get on with your life and meet new women than it is to try and go back to women you've met in the past (who, for one reason or another don't feel attraction for you), and try to get them to come around. Move on.

[anonymous]

Exactly what I would've said.

[anonymous]

i agree with a lot of what jake is talking about. i can't speak for the female gender in general, but personally, (even though i feel like an asshole admitting this...) i think guys who are jerks initially end up doing better later. people like "the chase"... yeah, but it's more complicated than that. for example when i meet a guy who is arrogant and being a jerk it's intriguing because subconsciously, i believe that i can get this person to like me and treat me differently than other people... it's sort of like it's a challenge. on the other hand, "nice" guys (in my mind) are probably nice to everyone and it doesn't make me feel special if he's being nice to me too. i don't go through these thought processes consciously when i meet someone... but my subconscious first impression is usually what determines if i could ever have feelings for a person. (most) girls aren't going to be with/put up with a guy who is going to be a jerk to them all the time. i think it just makes a girl feel special and good about herself when a guy

[tillie1123]

agreed

I agree with High School Relationships Person

[anonymous]

As people get older they stop wanting the so called "dick" and they realize the nice guy is the one they want. It is a give and take and no one in the relationship is more demanding than the other.
Also, Pags411, you seem the least likely to give relationship advice on how to treat a girl, or how a guy should act. Regardless of whether you think being a "dick" is a good or bad thing, it is my understanding that you are the "dick" and treat girls that way. But once you get past your high school relationship level, I think you will realize all of those girls will be gone because they will be looking for the nice guy, and you certainly are not him.

Re: I agree with High School Relationships Person

[pags411]

Well we did ask to refrain from assaulting, but maybe it was stated in too many words. Anyways, you're right, I shouldn't give relationship advice. I sincerely apologize. As we speak I'm scrolling up through all my posts to make sure I get rid of all that advice I gave on relationships. You've proved your credibility by construction a cotent argument saturated with valid deductions drawn from experience with me, or otherwise factual sources. You went out of your way to post something about me. If you apparently know who I am (as you stated you did), come speak with me please. I hope you feel a little better otherwise this post doesn't accomplish anything.

Re: I agree with High School Relationships Person

[say_kiss]

Did you read ANY of the original post or the comments? This has nothing to do with thinking being a dick is a good or bad thing, its about adapting to the environment that girls created. And obvoiusly, unless you are blind to all the events around us, there really is no getting past the high school level. Drama exists in every relationship, its just dealt with differently as we age.

This doesnt even merit an intellegent response and,

do not assualt anyone, constructive criticism only

[creepysmeagol]

What you're saying is fundamentally true, I can't stand people who talk that kind of skewed hypocricy, but since when did you start talking to Uzziel and Trinch on AIM?

[tillie1123]

Sorry my entry is broken up into sections b/c it’s so long…haha

[tillie1123]

Now I also think the whole idea of the "one" and "love" are terms used too much in our culture. Western culture is so into finding the "one" and into romance. Look at the movies today...love stories galore and guess what, they all have happy endings. We even watch tv shows with those love stories and say awww how cute, i wish i had that. But I think we're too into finding intimate relationships with that one special person. For instance, Japanese seem to rely more on friendships to gain intimacy, whereas Americans seek it more in romantic relationships with a boyfriend, girlfriend, or spouse. In noting this, some researchers have suggested that Asians who tend to be less focused on personal feelings such as passion and are more concerned with the practical aspects of social attachmetns appear less vulnerable to the kind of disillusionment that leads to the crumbling of relationships. (i'll re-bring up this issue later, I'm sure

[tillie1123]

Ok, and i have to say this. I've read a lot of post of ppl saying that girls want to be treated shitty? um ok...last time i checked girls don't like it. I know from my own experience when I started to be treated "shitty" i brought up the issue. I even tried to end the relationship, but like most ppl, i just couldn't do it b/c I kept trying to hold onto what wasn't there. but then i realized that that person wasn't the same person I "fell in love" with and things wouldn't ever be the same no matter what...and then i got over it. And I also have to say that I don't know of a single girl that has run off with some guy just for the pleasure of being "beaten." I don't know about you, but I don't think I've ever heard a girl say, "Yes, I get to go see Jimbo today and he's going to punch me in my stomach and then rape me 10x and then maybe spit on me...oooo I'm so pumped! I love him." The only time I've heard a girl say she was excited to break out the whips and chains was if she was into s&m. oook. Now, I do know also from

[tillie1123]

anyways....got off the topic. So about the word love being used too much. When ppl say this to eachother, a lot of times I don't think they really mean it. I mean, I know I've said it and had it said back to me, and no I wasn't lying when i said it and neither was he, b/c at the time we thought we really felt that. But we didn't. I honestly don't even know what love really is. I mean, i know it's a good feeling, right? The Dalai Lama says, "you often find relationships very much based on immediate sexual attraction." He also says those relationships don't last. Then he says, "you can have other types of relationships, on the otherhand, in which the prson in a cool state of mind will realize that physically speaking, in terms of appearance, my bf or gf may not be that ttractive b/ he or she is really a good person, a kind, gentle person." Both of those relationships don't last. Then the Dalai Lama says, "However, there is a second type of relationship which is also based on sexual attraction, but in which the physical