Since we're at the point of lies and half-truths being posted about me

Apr 13, 2009 11:08

I guess I'll give more details so the truth gets out.

First, the technical part:

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jjmarika April 13 2009, 15:27:26 UTC
Chris' "grounds" for adjudication boil down to "I didn't like the plotline":

Well, if you want to be technical about it, his grounds for adjudication boil down to, "I chose to roleplay a person who would sacrifice himself, and so was forced into sacrificing myself by you presenting a plotline where sacrifice was an option"

By that logic, every ressurection Omi has ever done was adjudicatable, since I play a character for whom death is a preferable option to being used as a weapon against her friends.

I'm also terribly amused how he keeps throwing around the word 'metagame', which I feel like must be a hot-button word down there, since it's clearly the reason that he rezzed himself, rather than do the evil metagaming.

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kumir_k9 April 13 2009, 15:35:20 UTC
I think it's not even "I didn't like the plotline". It sounds more like "I didn't like how it turned out *for me* (after the fact), even though I knew it could, was warned it could, was advised away from it and had other, better, more desirable options because I thought I could be the hero and it backfired".

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pbsweetheart April 13 2009, 16:44:34 UTC
He didn't think he would get the 10% pull and he did.

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kumir_k9 April 13 2009, 17:00:56 UTC
But that is a reality. That's why it's stressed so hard. If that possibility is a problem, then the risk shouldn't be taken. I know; I've been there. I did what my character would do and paid the price. I had options, just like Chris did. I chose the ones that were right for the character, even suspecting the outcome, had a one in 10 chance of pulling black *IF* the town failed and I was killed. I knew all that and took the risk anyway ( ... )

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kumir_k9 April 13 2009, 15:32:24 UTC
Perming sucks. No questions there. If you consciouly make the decisions that get it for you though, suck it up and move on. Don't be a whiny baby, in a position of power no less, that sets a bad example for others and worst of all, changes the history of it. I think that's what I hate the most. The fact he did it in such a lowly manner is just icing on the cake.

I pity you man. Thanks for posting your side of it, even if it's under a locked post that the world at large can't see.

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silway April 13 2009, 15:39:50 UTC
unlocked

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pbsweetheart April 13 2009, 16:47:01 UTC
"that sets a bad example for others "

One of my bigger concerns as well.

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marcus_sez_vote April 13 2009, 15:40:10 UTC
Are there a high percentage of lawyers who play NERO? This seems something like contract law/negotiations. It's interesting to get some insight into this sort of thing. Part of it I imagine is that as the community gets larger and larger it gets more difficult to deal with people acting this way.

Be well.

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silway April 13 2009, 15:47:55 UTC
Heh, Ironically, I'm a lawyer. ;) But no, not a lot of them.

Trust me though, when all your friends told you not to play NERO because you would lose your mind and throw things, they weren't kidding. The fundamental mindset of some (not all, but way too many) of NERO is very VERY different than most Accelerant games. And with such a large and sprawling organization, a ridiculous emphasis on the precise wording of things has developed that turns a lot of issues into pseudo-legal wrangling.

As a note, however, the resemblance to actual legal wrangling is superficial at best. ;)

Silway

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miribella April 13 2009, 15:42:33 UTC
wow... just really wow. I am less afraid of 'permanent' death as my characters... awesome... yeah (insert more dots here)

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Wow... tragic_culture April 13 2009, 16:10:40 UTC
I think I am going to name my scrotum "Kyth Wild." Or maybe "Kyth and the Wilds" for the Total Package. Yeah.

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Re: Wow... pbsweetheart April 13 2009, 16:46:13 UTC
While I disagree with the outcome, there is no need for that.

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Re: Wow... elvenogre April 13 2009, 20:50:50 UTC
Same, while I think this decision was no where near an unbiased decision and handled horribly by the Metro Ajudication committee, there is no reason need to do that.

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Re: Wow... bad_grief April 13 2009, 21:50:42 UTC
That was uncalled for.

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