Comments | sjepearson03: Who's laughin' with me?

sjepearson03

Who's laughin' with me?

Jun 23, 2005 14:45

I got this email today from a dear young woman in our youth group. Please know that I'm not laughing at her, only at myself ( Read more... )

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quirky_layne June 23 2005, 20:41:53 UTC

You mean what is my definition of submission in marriage? (oh, boy!) Or submission to Christ? Or?
Is this a youth group memeber or an adult who helps with youth group?

I think it is nice that she admires you and would like your advice.

submission in marriage sjepearson03 June 24 2005, 17:44:05 UTC

and yeah, "oh boy!" What does anyone know about that???!!! I feel like I can find something wrong with EVERYone's definition. This is not good. BTW, this is a youth, not an adult and on one hand, I think it is nice, but on the other, if she thinks that I "seem to have a grasp on it..." then I'm putting up a REALLY good show. Which I do not want to do!

Re: submission in marriage j3npayn3 June 24 2005, 22:51:12 UTC

Or you know more than you think you do. Sometimes these things make sense/work for us in more ways than strictly intellectual.

Re: submission in marriage sjepearson03 June 25 2005, 11:50:50 UTC

I think SOOOOO much of the idea depends on the personalities who married. What works for us doesn't work for others. What works for them, doesn't necessarily work for us. I'm going to check that book out...more later.

restoration86 June 23 2005, 23:30:46 UTC

shoot, I dunno

ericajill03 June 24 2005, 00:21:13 UTC

dang girl, you're on your own!

darceyrene June 24 2005, 01:57:26 UTC

It is all about humility, not placing our desires above our spouse. We do it because it is commanded by God. He despises haughtiness (in my view the opposite of submission), the pride of life that comes naturally in our flesh. We receive Christ's peace when we obey His commands, and this was one of them. Plus, a strange phenomenon occurs when we choose to submit: we often recieve bountiful blessings afterwards, maybe more than we might have wished for had we gotten what we wanted in the first place.

Just my humble view--Not that I've mastered it by any stretch.

j3npayn3 June 24 2005, 23:06:16 UTC

Well, isn't this an interesting topic. There are definitely a lot of opinions out there on this, and I know you won't be surprised to hear that I subscribe to a view that's less conservative than the one I grew up with. I could go on and on, but I will keep this short. (We can email if you want. I love talking about this stuff.) Here's what submission means to me: That I care about Paul's needs and try to do something about them. Sometimes in ways that push me to extend myself much further than I would like. He does this for me too and in that, we're doing what I think marriage is about. I don't buy into this men-need-respect, women-need-love stuff. I think men and women need lots of both. I also don't buy into the Paul-is-my-leader thing. The Bible doesn't say he is my leader, contrary to popular belief. If you really want to explore this topic, a book I think is excellent is _Men and Women in the Church_ by Sarah Sumner. She is brilliant and has tackled both the marriage and the female leadership in the church topics ( ... )