A month and a half of class

Apr 20, 2010 18:33

So, you remember when I mentioned how LJ installed some third-party code to rummage through all the links you include in your posts, and stick affiliate links on them to earn cash? But the coders were horribly amateur and didn't know how to filter URLs, so they broke a bunch of links, overwrote people's own affiliate IDs, and generally made a dog's ( Read more... )

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m_nivalis April 20 2010, 22:39:15 UTC
I've got an account on both places, but work has problems to connect to DW (I can log in, but not go any further. Very strange), so if you want me to comment on a DW post, you either have to wait until I'm home, or persuade me to take the extra steps for an Open ID reply.

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smarriveurr April 20 2010, 22:43:32 UTC
It's far-off yet, particularly as I've got paid time to use up for a while. It's just that as more and more of these hinky things show up, I find myself saying "I'd migrate, but I don't think most of my friends would, and I don't want to maintain two comment-streams..."

So, I figured, time to find out who would, before the straw that breaks the smarriveurr's back.

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m_nivalis April 20 2010, 22:57:16 UTC
Yeah, most of the people I read are on LJ, or crosspost, so I have no direct incentive to migrate. Especially when work gives me access problems. A bit irritating when I'd like to update my professional blog there :-/ .

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smarriveurr April 20 2010, 23:05:55 UTC
*nod* That's pretty much it - all LJ has for me, now, is the userbase, but the userbase is the thing that matters most for a personal blog/keeping up with friends.

The access problems seem more important than anything else. DW has excellent interoperability, as far as I'm concerned, so I could theoretically maintain both easily. I'd just prefer to have all the discussion in one place, since that's both how interesting people find each other and how discussions become more rich. Nothing more irritating than having the same basic discussion twice in two places because each person doesn't know what you've already said to the other.

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paperkingdoms April 20 2010, 23:44:05 UTC
FWIW, I'm sort of anti-cross-posting... if you did it more feed-like over in LJ to direct everyone to the conversation over at DW, I can see that working.

I've really liked DW's philosophy from the get-go, and I'd like, from a "pick the better company" perspective, to shift over there. And when I renew my paid account here in a couple of days, I'm probably not going to go for a whole year at a time this time. But I'm going to need some time to play, and see how following LJ communities from DW works, and things like that. Between inertia and userbase... I don't know.

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akiko April 21 2010, 02:45:13 UTC
It's possible to turn off commenting on LJ xposts from DW and link back to the DW entry in the text of the post. (This entry was originally posted at $DWURL.)

I've been contemplating asking my flist who'd be annoyed if I turned off comments here and forced them to comment there.

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smarriveurr April 21 2010, 15:00:29 UTC
That (turning off comments here) is my biggest hurdle. I know I'd be moderately annoyed logging into a Second Service just to comment on one friend's entries - but if I switched, as the poster, I'd be annoyed logging into LJ for just a couple replies, too. So, yeah.

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akiko April 21 2010, 15:43:27 UTC
OpenID isn't all *that* arduous...

My main concern is that, since I'm not widely advertising on DW what my LJ is (though the LJ -> DW is mostly OK), it would be even easier to figure out my LJ ID once a bunch of OpenID LJ users start commenting.

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desh April 21 2010, 03:25:42 UTC
I'm also inching closer and closer. There's a particular circle of friends I probably wouldn't switch without, but I keep thinking about it...

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smarriveurr April 21 2010, 04:11:49 UTC
That's pretty much why I'm asking now. There's a certain core/critical mass without which I probably wouldn't switch completely... but if a significant number would either move themselves or visit to comment, and given DW's lack of shadiness and excellent ability to play nice with LJ... yeah...

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rahaeli April 21 2010, 19:35:25 UTC
FYI, sometime within hopefully the next month we'll be rolling out the ability to read your LJ friends list through your DW account. So with that plus crossposting, you should be good to go.

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desh April 21 2010, 19:36:30 UTC
Yeah, I'm basically waiting for that, plus I think one or two OpenID things (can't remember now), to start really pushing my friends to switch. I've already switched all of my syn reading and crossposted reading over.

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paleolithical April 21 2010, 04:58:35 UTC
I post on DW (deepwoods), auto-crosspost it here, and comment on peoples comments where they appear.

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smarriveurr April 21 2010, 14:50:23 UTC
Working out well, I take it? How long have you been using that arrangement?

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paleolithical April 21 2010, 15:56:10 UTC
Several months, the only I would want that is missing (AFAIK) is to have comments sucked/pushed back and forth.

They support the lj codes, so there is no problem with links and such (there are ways to enter them, the FAQ is fairly clear)

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smarriveurr April 21 2010, 16:30:27 UTC
Man, if they could replicate comment chains, that would be insane. I wouldn't even wait.

The whole thing seems remarkably well done, and they're small enough to be more agile about things than LJ can be.

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meriae April 21 2010, 12:38:33 UTC
I have been irritated by the increasing number of ads that are required to get anywhere near reading my flist. There are about 5-6 people that I'd want to take with me if I wanted to go... but if they came with, I can totally see a migration happening.

This dreamwidth thing looks neat. I'd like to play with it to see how it works.

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smarriveurr April 21 2010, 14:53:13 UTC
I figure that's the hardest part of migration. There's a group of people here without whom I don't think I'd migrate, and they each have their group without whom they wouldn't migrate, etc, etc, ad nauseum. But I figure if I ask now, maybe other people will ask, and get the idea rolling around, so that if there's ever something so annoying that a whole hunk of us can't take it anymore, we can basically trigger an exodus.

And as far as I can tell, DW works like LJ, but better, with more useful features (like searching your locked posts) and run by interesting people as opposed to soulless corporations.

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