interruptions and fictional vengeances

Sep 05, 2008 18:16



I had today earmarked for a short, sharp half-day of current chapter rewrites, followed by a bath with lavender oil and a new novel (Sarah Hall’s The Carhullan Army), before meeting for dinner a friend who has again emerged from a psychiatric hospital, and seems admirably sanguine about life. But I. is currently hiding out at home with his phone ( Read more... )

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helixaspersa September 5 2008, 17:54:56 UTC
Goodness, this almost makes me want to write fiction myself. (Something I have never had the least desire to do, possibly partly as a reaction to the tedious assumption year on year that naturally I must. My fantasy writing projects run instead to things like elegant, but factually rigorous, popular accounts of the life-cycles involved in the creation of plant galls. Or poetry, which I sensibly don't write either, since it would almost certainly end up being concerned with roughly the same things, and be hard going even by the standards of earnest academic verse.)

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smellingbottle September 6 2008, 08:56:36 UTC
Well, your account of your own childhood fantasy games suggests you're a natural world-builder - does the idea of fantasy, or historical fiction, appeal at all? Not that writing a novel should be thought of as in any way compulsory - though I quite like the notion of some first-time novelist being interviewed and saying 'Nah, never fancied it, really, I'm in it for the fictional revenge. Everyone who ever gave me a Chinese burn in the playground gets ritually sacrificed by chapter six.'

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helixaspersa September 6 2008, 10:06:34 UTC
I enjoy reading some kinds of fantasy and science fiction, but no, no desire to write it at all - I would enjoy working out all the geeky details, you're right, but lose interest in my supposed characters almost instantly, I imagine. At some v. basic level, I just don't feel that prose (especially fiction) "counts" compared to poetry. But that's always been the case: poetry came first for me before even the fantasy games: my earliest memories are partly poems. I suppose my honest feeling is that fiction is an enjoyable, but ultimately inevitably unsatisfying (for me) attempt to combine the two distinct things that matter (to me, at least): that is, poetry and the enormous pleasure of *facts* (both these categories understood rather broadly in a Renaissance fashion . . . ). Although it's surprising that I feel this, as I actually read more fiction than almost anyone else I know, and much of it with great enjoyment. (I can feel you thinking: thank god this woman doesn't teach anything (much) after 1700! And I accept that much if not all ( ... )

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richenda September 5 2008, 18:29:07 UTC
>> the kind of woman who watches the cutting of every cake with her forehead already creased with shrill, pre-emptive self-assertion because if she doesn't stand up for herself, she will have to spend her whole life knowing that someone else got her slice of Bakewell tart.

Lawrie Marlow!

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smellingbottle September 6 2008, 09:01:12 UTC
Only Lawrie is also goofy and (sometimes) appealing along with her outrage that someone's borrowed her horse without asking, or is letting her actually carry her suitcase from the station - maybe it's that part of it emerges from being the youngest of a large family where sharing and handing on is compulsory. Whereas my former acquaintance was unspeakable...

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richenda September 6 2008, 12:47:06 UTC
Agreed that Lawrie has charm - but aren't there several occasions when she squeals about turns and "fair" at the table - rather like the Bakewell thing?

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old_black September 6 2008, 02:29:18 UTC
"...It contains ...definitely recognisable ...portraits ..."
Hmmm. I'm reminded of a book written by a former friend of ours. He included a character who carried remarkable parallels with my partner. She is an engineer and so was this (female) character and there were other characteristics that I immediately recognised.

In the book, the fictional engineer was described as "ugly". Our relationship with the author has never been quite the same.

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smellingbottle September 6 2008, 09:14:08 UTC
Not to softpedal the situation - which must have been hurtful, and I'm not surprised you're not on the terms you were - but it is entirely possible that he borrowed elements of your partner, like her profession, and stuck them together with physical characteristics from someone entirely different (or, of course, invented - let's allow novelists some actual fiction). I know I gave elements of my closest friend's appearance to a dogmatic, precise character in another old project which didn't get off the ground, and I've recognised a couple of merged portraits of that kind (characteristics borrowed from more than one person and given to a character who had nothing to do with either real individual, or the author's relationship to them) in the last novel of another writer I know. But you're right to remind it can hurt, though I hold to my belief that the parents and in-laws are past belief, and that the SCR can deal with being parodied.

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liseuse September 6 2008, 16:54:19 UTC
I don’t suppose Woolf figured in armed guards into her ideas about the necessity for a room of one’s own…

They would come in so handy. I considered, once, buying a tape machine and recording myself barking the word "WORKING" just so I could hit play when people started interrupting me.

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smellingbottle September 7 2008, 14:36:28 UTC
I think I've got to the stage where people don't even need to be interrupting me, just breathing in a different room. Which I suppose makes me the Uncle Quentin of this bit of North London...

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