Well. Meds are mean mean mean. They help, but at what cost? If he cannot control his mania and depression cycles, that may be his only choice. He really needs to be dedicated to helping himself though. The fact that he isn't.. and the fact that he is disappointed will not be able to pursue recreational drugs.. is not a good sign. It's very easy to stop taking your meds on a regular basis.. and that will cause more problems than anything. With many conditions, it's all or nothing. I hope I'm making sense.
I wish I could deliver the real thing. When I read the post there was nothing I could really say without sounding like I was telling you how to handle things, I just wanted to hug you and let you know someone cared.
Feeling the feelings to be able to move onvakagoMarch 8 2004, 21:19:21 UTC
I am not a trooper for reading the entire post. I am just a person who cares bout ya hun. I identified with alot of things you said so I am gonna take my time and tell ya how I feel about what you wrote. Basically I feel that everything you wrote is about acceptance. Can you accept Misha the way he is knowing that things are not typical and based on what society deems as normal? Can you accept his ups and downs, the fact that he won;t be able to party, the fact that he will have to live a clean and sober life in order to make his meds really work. Well no one can answer that for you. You sounds frustrated and at your wits end
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Give it another two weeks. If you have to, give him an ultimatum; either he commits to the meds or he loses you. If he still doesn't help himself, run far, far away. And very quickly. With no looking back.
You haven't by chance been burned by such a thing yourself, have you? In any regard, though I don't believe in ultimatums, I do think that I need to get my position straight with myself first and then communicate it with him clearly--and perhaps with a timeline included.
Here I thought that was an innocuous observation...jawsoflifeMarch 8 2004, 23:10:04 UTC
God, I'm sorry to hear that's going on. There's no graceful way to go about loving someone with a mental illness. Like you, I want to believe in captial-L love winning out. But there have been times when the things I need in my life were in conflict with the one I loved. There's a woman out there who consumes me whole, who has every key to my heart, and who would make me miserable were we to live together. There's love there, but it doesn't fit into the container of my life. I guess my romanticism gives way to practicality sometimes, but it's hard to be happy when you're always waiting for the next good times.
Oh, and you wouldn't have to MAKE us get you drunk if you came here (home?). We'd do that voluntarily and with gusto.
Re: Here I thought that was an innocuous observation...strippedscrewMarch 9 2004, 23:03:19 UTC
There's love there, but it doesn't fit into the container of my life.
Maybe I'd have an easier time with it if I knew clearly what the container of my life does or even should look like. My incessant relativism causes everything to be variable, flexibility unending.
But I didn't mean to make it sound as though I'd FORCE you...just that it'd be nice to ring you up and say, "Misery, confusion, beer, GO!"
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How would I treat him if this were cancer, not bipolar? That's a question that will be rolling around my mind for the forseeable future.
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In any regard, though I don't believe in ultimatums, I do think that I need to get my position straight with myself first and then communicate it with him clearly--and perhaps with a timeline included.
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Oh, and you wouldn't have to MAKE us get you drunk if you came here (home?). We'd do that voluntarily and with gusto.
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Maybe I'd have an easier time with it if I knew clearly what the container of my life does or even should look like. My incessant relativism causes everything to be variable, flexibility unending.
But I didn't mean to make it sound as though I'd FORCE you...just that it'd be nice to ring you up and say, "Misery, confusion, beer, GO!"
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