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Sep 09, 2011 16:30

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Define:Inmate status parameters.

What typical characteristics cause one to be chosen for Inmate status? How is the choice differentiated for those selected to be Wardens?

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[Inmate Filter] doctor_j_crane September 10 2011, 00:26:59 UTC
The majority of answers to your question will be 'murder'.

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[Inmate Filter] systmadmin September 10 2011, 03:13:40 UTC
Noted. 'Murder' is an identifying feature for most Inmates. Are there any other common traits?

And is that true for you?

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[Inmate Filter] doctor_j_crane September 10 2011, 03:14:30 UTC
Anger, mental instability. Which, for the record, don't apply to me.

Arguably. It depends on how you define it.

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[Inmate Filter] systmadmin September 10 2011, 03:25:10 UTC
What about Wardens that exhibit either--or both--of those traits? [He hasn't been on the Barge long enough, yet, to see unstable Wardens--at least, that weren't during floods. But anger is all over the network.]

How so?

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[Inmate Filter] sharpememory September 10 2011, 00:50:08 UTC
I don't know what landed me here. I was more or less a model citizen in my world.

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Re: [Inmate Filter] systmadmin September 10 2011, 03:17:52 UTC
Ah, I've heard that before [and he totally understands the sentiment]. Then you believe there is no conceivable action that you performed, or apparent faulty behavior, that you could contribute to your placement here?

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[Inmate Filter] sharpememory September 10 2011, 03:20:14 UTC
I don't believe it, it happens to be true. And if you're saying something like that, I bet you're a warden.

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[Inmate Filter] systmadmin September 10 2011, 04:01:05 UTC
Then the Admiral has shown that he is prone to committing errors once again.

Saying something like what? I'm an Inmate.

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most_feared September 10 2011, 01:16:48 UTC
My personal observations?

Warden. Individual that may or may not have an excellent record of behavior, but supposedly possesses either the worldly experience or knowledge to fulfill a deal posed by the Admiral.

Inmate. Someone that is known to have committed errors that have led to destruction, frequently for misguided or selfish reasons, and was brought here against his or her will.

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systmadmin September 10 2011, 03:29:22 UTC
Do you know what specific type of 'knowledge' is required to fulfill the deal? And Inmates must be believed to lack this 'wordly experience' as well as 'knowledge', then, if those are attributes that define Wardens. Do you know what sort of worldly experience is needed, or that is standard to only Wardens?

[The second bit about Inmates causes a noticeable delay.]
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What if that's not true? What if an Inmate committed no errors, but in fact performs actions to benefit their particular system or situation?

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most_feared September 10 2011, 03:35:17 UTC
Nope. Apparently we can even be stark raving fucking idiots by my measurements, but even the stark raving fucking idiots have known something capable of graduating people so they had to know something right.

An inmate could have needed to act outside of their parameters to keep something from being destroyed. Even if they're not directly responsible, their actions in blindly supporting one system may have led to the destruction of another equally important one, or destroyed necessary components of that system without knowing they were necessary or advantageous.

I have a system of my own. They're difficult and delicate to maintain.

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systmadmin September 10 2011, 07:58:06 UTC
I see. That is. [Ridiculous? Absurd? For a short moment he isn't entirely sure how to finish that sentence.] Troubling. Are you a Warden or an Inmate?

What if an Inmate is prohibited from or unable to act outside the parameters that are set for them? And what if what needed to be destroyed had the potential to cause greater destruction later, if it was left intact and untouched?

Oh? What system?

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[private to the end of the post] dovehearted September 10 2011, 02:03:03 UTC
[It took her a damn long time to figure out what this even meant, but once she puzzled through it she has a response.]

Conspiracy.

It's prison.

[What her warden's been addressing has nothing to do with it, but she's not going to talk about that.]

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[private to the end of the post] systmadmin September 10 2011, 03:38:49 UTC
Conspiracy? Clarify.

Yes, it is a prison.

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Re: [private to the end of the post] dovehearted September 10 2011, 03:47:01 UTC
What they call being in on something, but not actually doing the stuff that's against the law. [Not the right definition, but close enough for what he needs.]

So I belong here.

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[private to the end of the post] systmadmin September 10 2011, 08:07:00 UTC
Ah. What were you 'in' on?

Then you believe you should be here, and the Admiral's choice in your imprisonment was valid?

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Inmate Filter stopthat_destro September 10 2011, 02:21:12 UTC
I was a scientist tasked with heading research and development at the... company I worked for. All I did was excel at my job and surpass my peers in the scientific community. [Except he's a terrorist, SOOOO...] I don't think that validates my confinement here.

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[Inmate Filter] systmadmin September 10 2011, 03:56:08 UTC
You were placed here because you merely worked efficiently? [Sounds like another misjudgment on the Admiral's end, provided he's being told the whole story here.] That doesn't quite seem comparable to murder, which, as I've been told, is the most common indication of Inmate status.

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[Inmate Filter] stopthat_destro September 10 2011, 04:18:29 UTC
Yes. Or because I didn't question my work, I suppose.

I never murdered anybody until I came here. [Except he totally had test subjects die like all the time. But that's just splitting hairs, clearly.] The Barge makes people worse.

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[Inmate Filter] systmadmin September 10 2011, 08:15:37 UTC
What about your work needed to be questioned?

[Oh, clearly.] I'm not surprised to hear that. [As CLU already has a person or two he'd like to harm, and it's barely been a few months.] The environment on this ship does not promote a peaceful existence.

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