It's quite interesting around there. I saw everyone from David Bowie and Marc Bolan through to Rainbow and onto the Clash and various other punk bands. The Rainbow at Finsbury Park was part of my youth. Between it, the Hammersmith Odeon, and the clubs of Soho (100 Club and the Marquee) London's musical perimeter was circumscribed. I lived in the suburbs, but the musical centre was what counted. It has changed, but all things do. What with the fire and general other stuff, I reckon the North London community of all faiths and political persuasions have suffered a bit of a blow. They have come together in solidarity, which is something wonderful. Maybe this will aid changing things for the better. When all communities know that the mad bastards will try to murder them for ridiculous and stupid reasons they may just realise that they have mad bastards in their midst too.
You want us to admit there's double standard? Well, there is. It's been all over the place. Same goes for painting our FB walls in the colors of Western countries and saying Je Suis ...X... whenever we get hit - and then going on to ignore the much bigger and more horrific attacks when they occur in countries we don't care about (mostly populated by brown people we subconsciously don't relate to).
It's all messed up. We as a species are messed up.
More info is coming out about him. Recently separated from his wife and family, unstable, drinker, violent.
Pretty much the British equivalent of the slightly criminal or intellectually challenged folk who blow themselves up in the name of their religion after being proselytised.
What radicalises people? Propaganda, propagandist opportunism, and.an exploitable sense of grievance. When that's done then action is merely means, and opportunity; the motive is already in place.
Me, I'd start by holding the Daily Mail and The Express to account. Fine them for every inaccurate piece of prejudice they serve to their readers. If it's wrong, hit em where it hurts. Don't stop them printing, but if proven incorrect... hit their owners and proprietors with fines.
It seems that at last some of the Barclays Bank directors are going to be charged with fraud. I wonder if we can do the same to hate-peddling newspapers?
Even though I believe in a general freedom of speech, I don't believe in hate speech or palpable lies and disinformation. Ergo, as far as I'm concerned the minute it crosses either of those two lines it falls into the category of shouting "fire" in a crowded theatre and is ripe for plucking.
Maybe make the fine commensurate with the circulation. Blogs get a slap on the wrist for racist inaccuracies and hate speech against minorities, but the Daily Mail's and the Daily Express's proprietors get a few mill deducted from their balances. And also they forgo any chance of their "K's" or elevation to the Lords.
For what its worth, I haven't heard this guy described as anything but a terrorist. I don't think anyone is whitewashing his actions or excusing them. But I think you can perform a heinous act that inspires terror without being a terrorist
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It has changed, but all things do. What with the fire and general other stuff, I reckon the North London community of all faiths and political persuasions have suffered a bit of a blow. They have come together in solidarity, which is something wonderful.
Maybe this will aid changing things for the better. When all communities know that the mad bastards will try to murder them for ridiculous and stupid reasons they may just realise that they have mad bastards in their midst too.
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It's all messed up. We as a species are messed up.
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Pretty much the British equivalent of the slightly criminal or intellectually challenged folk who blow themselves up in the name of their religion after being proselytised.
What radicalises people? Propaganda, propagandist opportunism, and.an exploitable sense of grievance. When that's done then action is merely means, and opportunity; the motive is already in place.
Me, I'd start by holding the Daily Mail and The Express to account. Fine them for every inaccurate piece of prejudice they serve to their readers. If it's wrong, hit em where it hurts. Don't stop them printing, but if proven incorrect... hit their owners and proprietors with fines.
It seems that at last some of the Barclays Bank directors are going to be charged with fraud. I wonder if we can do the same to hate-peddling newspapers?
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I'm not one of them.
Even though I believe in a general freedom of speech, I don't believe in hate speech or palpable lies and disinformation. Ergo, as far as I'm concerned the minute it crosses either of those two lines it falls into the category of shouting "fire" in a crowded theatre and is ripe for plucking.
Maybe make the fine commensurate with the circulation. Blogs get a slap on the wrist for racist inaccuracies and hate speech against minorities, but the Daily Mail's and the Daily Express's proprietors get a few mill deducted from their balances. And also they forgo any chance of their "K's" or elevation to the Lords.
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http://www.viewsnews.net/2017/06/19/britain-treating-attack-muslims-terrorism/
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