*sigh*

[tarazed24]

Apparently I'm one of the very few who would have liked to have seen this work out, and I don't think everyone was well behaved. I saw a lot of nitpicking that didn't need to be done this early, and it sounded like everyone wanted everything set out like this month, when things didn't have to be so fast/rushed

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[sileas_1]

while the thought of building wattle and daub houses may sound like fun and really create a great atmosphere. We have to be grown ups about such plans. We have to be sure no one will get hurt either because they are not constructed properly or they are not safe to sleep in. All I am asking is that before we make plans to meet and start to build, that we find out what can and cannot be done legally and safely. I would not want to see Thane crushed by falling haybales or a thatched roof because no one wanted to be bothered getting the proper permits and inspections. There are good reasons we have building inspectors, and that's to keep us safe from ourselves. I too would like to see such a place but: 1. it would have to be very carefully planned and constructed. 2. Only the Province itself is exempt from the building code so unless these buildings are owned by the Province they need to be inspected and built according to code. 3. I'm not sure I would like all that time effort and money put into something that belongs to someone

[albreda]

Obviously not involved, but still finding the conversation interesting...

I've often wondered what the legalities of building reconstructions of this sort ARE; modern building code wouldn't (to me) seem to allow things like thatch rooves, and open fire hearths; are there separate laws covering mock-historical buildings, and, if so, do they allow one to actually sleep in said constructions?

(I DO think that IF modern laws would just 100% forbid period construction of any variety, that *I* might document what hoops I TRIED to jump through, who I spoke with about doing it legally, etc, and then do it anyway (if all other ducks were in a row), but then again, my job wouldn't be on the line, and I completely understand not wanting to be seen to condone such if it were.)

[sileas_1]

In Nova Scotia there are historic properties such as houses built over a century ago with tiny, narrow and steep stairways leading to the second floor. These buildings are (for the most part) owned by the Province and are therefore exempt from the building code laws. (There maybe some privately owned historic buildings as well but they are not open to the public, nor are they rented out for "camping" etc.) Historic construction techniques are not permitted unless they are in a museum type setting such as in Cape Breton where there is an actual Scottish "black house", and in such cases they are for museum purposes, not to live in or to sleep in. There is good reason for these restrictions to the building code. We know so much more now about hazards in construction and materials than what we did back when those techniques were in common usage. I for one would not want to see something built strictly for atmosphere that could prove hazardous to anyone.

[albreda]

Obviously MAJOR Precautions would need to be taken; hopefully the group could get the site made into a private museum, so they could work within THOSE standards, and incorporate the safety protocols they outline.

Hopefully no one would be dumb about it, but some of the code standards I've seen here in the States are somewhat over the top, and have little to do with safety.

[sileas_1]

Thank God there are at least some ADULTs in the group!

[landverhuizer]

Actually, I missed about 70-80 percent of it...

I talked to cliff a bit, bounced some ideas at him and he wanted me to take it to the list and had to tell him that I could not for obvious reasons (not on RML)

How we should deal with these things on a public forum, of course, should be at least quick to the point and simply put. I can not say for sure but by guessing from what I have read here and so on, what many in the Barony is really trying to say is "We are not ready to deal with this yet".

Knowing fair well how people behave on the RML, I bet you are correct on how everyone behaved... people get pretty brave, and stupid, on that list.

My opinion, of course: "was don't do it" This is mainly because I'm worried people will rush into ideas all romantic-like and start making big plans without looking at the bigger pictures. But I keep those opinions here in LJ, because seriously... the people here are supposed to be "grown-ups" and I'm sure individuals can decide for themselves. I really don't see why the group as a whole or

[jolynna]

I believe it was actually well done. cliff wanted things, that quite honestly, people don't have the time, money or heart to put in yet. I publicly agreed with Yesungge about trying it before we decide about anything permenent, thats only fair. But the impression I found was he wanted period, and only period, from day one....that is just impossible.

Vivian only asked the questions everyone was thinking, and reminded everyone that he has already "walked away" once. That, I found was just a precaution.

Personally, I have never found him to be friendly, nor were a lot of his responses as such.

[prince_hring]

Excerpted from an e-mail that I sent to him a while back:

[sileas_1]

I think these "garden sheds" sound like a wonderful idea. I have visions of whole caravans of Scadians on the highway heading for an event with their little tudor houses towed behind them.

[landverhuizer]

puts a rather comical image in my head...

[albreda]

Sounds like an awesome solution, and one that allows for both safey AND a way to deal with zoning/code laws. Interesting!