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Aug 27, 2005 22:45

I think im going to ask ryan to sign his rights that way he cant come around in 5 years wanting to be a dad messing gages head up bc he realized his mistake.. It may seem selfish.. but if the whole story of what ryan has done was out.. youd understand.. i was just wondering if anyone had any info on this? anything would help. thanks <3

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You can ask him sweet_n_lovly August 28 2005, 02:59:18 UTC
but be prepared for him to refuse. It cant be forced on him to sign over his rights.
Fathers rights have come a LONG way lately. Some of it actually REALLY REALLY sucks (I can say from experience)

If you really think its best for your son I would ask him. Make him understand WHY you want to do it and all. In my state you get out of child support if you sign off on your rights. So that could be enough of a reason for him to do it.

Is he already listed on the birth certificate?

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Re: You can ask him ____restless August 28 2005, 03:02:06 UTC
no hes not on the birth certificate.. he hasnt seen gage.. or spoken to me since i was 5 months pregnant.. so he hasnt paid any money... i dont want his money either... i just dont want him coming in 5 years messing gage's head up... i dont think he wants to be a dad.. so id rather get this done before he changes his mind and gage gets confused... you know? men suck.. they shouldnt have rights to begin with grrrrrrr.. all they did was have fun to get the baby.. we did the hard stuff haha.

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Re: You can ask him sweet_n_lovly August 28 2005, 03:13:24 UTC
If he isnt on the birth certificate you could just let it go for now BUT he could come after paternity at another time.

My sons father 'didnt want anything to do with him b/c he would be a bad father' etc and then decided when Ashton was 5 mos old he did. She he sued me for a paternity test and visitation. That can happen if he ever decides he wants to see him. It would cost him some $$ but he could do it.

If you want him out of his life completely then you can try and get him to sign over rights. The best way to go about it would be to contact a lawyer specializing in family law.

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nic_o August 28 2005, 04:01:21 UTC
if his name isn`t on the birth certificate, why would he even have to put up much of a fiqht ?

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x_paranoia_x August 28 2005, 11:14:35 UTC
hi i know you dont know me but i figured id put my 2 cents in just because of the situation i am in now my daughter is 2 years old and for two years her dad was the best father a daughter could ask for we have not been together since she was 6mo but he seen her 2x a week and every other weekend and he called her at least once aday up untill may of this year he got a new girlfriend that is 17 and cant stomach the fact that he is 24 WITH A DAUGHTER she wants no part of my daughter so Tommy quit seeing and calling her now he sees her for about an hour everyother weekend and it has messed her poor little head up soo bad she has to go to counseling because she bites her fingers and crys wanting to know why her daddy dont like her and things like that soo id really present it to the court that you think in the best intrest of your child it would be best to not have him around at all i am taking this to court right now and things are looking really good for me they are giving tommy a few weeks to straightin up but if he fails to pick her up ( ... )

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____restless August 28 2005, 17:07:01 UTC
I'm relaly sorry your going through this.. ryan got a new girlfriend while i was pregnant.. and thats when he decided he didnt want a baby... bc she doesnt want one... and thats fine.. because SHE WOULDNT HAVE HAD ONE... im gage's mother and even if ryan were in his life... she would not be his mother... so why her opinion matters i dont know.. but it made him not want gage... and shit that works for me too... id rather not have to deal with him for the rest of my life. i wouldnt even take his rights away and have to see him if i didnt have a fear that he would com ein and out of gages life later on lik emy dad did.. and caused me lots of problems... i will not have him making gage feel less than nothing.. so id rather take his rights away now.. than kill him later on. i hope things work out for you and your daughter... and for a 24 year old to listen to a 17 year old... is pathetic. when i look at my son (and im sure its the same with your daughter) i cant understand how anyone would want to be denied to even just hold his little ( ... )

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x_paranoia_x August 30 2005, 09:18:35 UTC
that is very true and well said these girls should have no say in OUR CHILDRENS LIVES we made these children and we take care of them every day and i think we both have the right to kick these men out of there lifes if there not going to play the part as good as we do and then they turn around and say its a damn money issue that makes me soo mad these men need to realize the only issue is these poor innocent children are getting pushed away bec. of a "new girlfriend" i cant understand how men can deny there children soo much i could never i just dont understand it but i hope things work out for ya and gage always remeber were all they need =) i hope ya dont mind i added ya

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____restless August 31 2005, 15:13:48 UTC
adding u back

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jamies_gurl August 28 2005, 18:21:40 UTC
I completely understand what you mean, my son Cody is about to turn 4 next month and his dad hasn't seen him since his first birthday. I don't know where you are at but here if the father is not in the childs life for 3 years then its considered abandonment and you can have who ever the fuck you want adopt him and he can never come back into his life legally.
I don't know much else but until there is a court order for visitations you don't need to let him see him but make sure that you have court ordered custody before you let him take your son ANYWHERE, and I mean anywhere even if it's just accross the fucking street because he can take your son and doesn't have to return him unless you can prove he is an unfit father and you have to wait until it goes through court because no one legally has custody. I hope this helps :)
*hugs* I know its hard.
Bree

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____restless August 28 2005, 18:44:56 UTC
are you letting someone adopt cody? and im not letting him see him.. im going to call and ask him to sign his rights away and if he says no.. ill say then ull have to take me to court to see him. he will probably just give them up bc hes a pos and doesnt want to be a dad anyways

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