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Sep 01, 2003 23:30

new application. i hope it's not too incoherent because i'm so tired.

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sugarcoatedsour September 2 2003, 15:38:19 UTC
i really admire a lot of your individual interpretations of art, politics, and genius. we talked about the catcher in the rye a few nights ago, and you mentioned the specific part where holden drops the record for phoebe. the way it affects you, affects me. i was moved by a lot of things you found sentimental, and i think that viewing that book as a work of art is fittingly unconventional.

you really seem to think in full circles [therefore i believe your method of thought has in fact been sharpened through experience & self-analysis] and your politics are well-rounded; i have the advantage of talking with you regularly outside of livejournal, so i may be biased towards your political ideology from our extensive conversations. you really are incredibly artistic, open, and observant. it's strange that you should mention shallowness in your lisst of flaws; i have never witness you act spoiled or snobby. do you mean in relation to others [i.e. your lack of interaction in large social groups ( ... )

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meatequalsbad September 2 2003, 16:50:33 UTC
oh yeah,you should read the entire ender's game series, because the end of it is great, and it's a very good examination of human nature.

when meeting new people, i can be shallow and just throw them into a grouping of people, even if they aren't part of that grouping. i'm selfish because, i feel like sometimes i take advantage of my parents wealth sometimes. but i'm not sure if it's ok to take advantage of that because it's there, i just don't feel right doing it. i'd kind of like to make my own way for myself, but they've already put me through private education and the like, and i think if i were to fuck with that, that would be more selfish. there goes my circular thinking again. and yes, i will think of myself as way better than people when they have political beliefs that i strongly disagree with, and it shows sometimes, and that's how i see myself as snobbish.

yeah, and i'm going to be a teacher when i get older, but i'll never grow up.

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meatequalsbad September 2 2003, 16:55:05 UTC
just go to my website listed on my livejournal, and it's the picture of the solitary person in the snow.

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ex_abram586 September 2 2003, 17:05:37 UTC
I did not know that you liked Philip Roth; I think that he is splendid. Which of his novels/short stories is your favorite?

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meatequalsbad September 2 2003, 18:00:21 UTC
my favorite so far would have to be "the ghost writer". the human stain which is being made into a movie, was good, and i have a love hate relationship with american pastoral.

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ex_abram586 September 2 2003, 22:55:38 UTC
I think that in American Pastoral he is too sentimental in places, like when he rambles on and on about "being here" and existing. I think that The Human Stain is genius, especially Lester the Vietnam veteran (I think that is his name). I love the story "The Conversion of the Jews."

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meatequalsbad September 3 2003, 07:37:59 UTC
i'll have to check that one out. i just didn't like being lied to the whole time in american pastoral. the only things in that book that actually happened to zuckerman were his childhood, his meetings with the swede, and his meeting with jerry.

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porcelainvagina September 2 2003, 19:18:08 UTC
"getting them to spend money on wants rather than needs"

you mean that the other way around, right?

and i don't think your idea is realistic, people will always want compensation for their labor. and some people will feel as though they deserve more, even though you could argue that they're all equally important in the scheme of things, but .. i think humans, particularly americans, have a desire to expand and consume. it's been the american way since we washed up in massachusetts. we moved west, then went all imperialistic the world's ass, and now we're, well, still truckin'.

i'm not saying i love money, but i think you're idea is a little naïve.

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meatequalsbad September 2 2003, 21:46:15 UTC
i did mean it the other way around. sorry i missed that in my proofreading ( ... )

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porcelainvagina September 3 2003, 10:17:43 UTC
i didn't mean to accuse or anything :o)

i understand what you are saying, and i apologize, whatever i wrote was just an impulsive, first-response .. response. thank you for explaining your thoughts in a kind manner.

and i do agree with that sentence you switched around: i think people should try and stick to spending on their needs rather than wants. this whole thing is reminding me very much of plato's republic...

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meatequalsbad September 3 2003, 16:07:03 UTC
yup, i love that book. i had to read it for school last year, as well as thomas more's utopia, which you should check out if you haven't read it.

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