Considering you went to the effort of creating an account to tell us we suck and that you want some sort of abject apology for telling you you were kind of an asshole, I sincerely doubt that you'll be added back to the community. We were trying to put this whole little shitfit behind us; thanks for dragging it back up. Seriously. All of the mods have AIM and email; couldn't you take up your issues privately? Or at least in the respectful manner that kawaiikingyo did here? Really. I mean, if you don't like the way that the comm is going, fine. You're totally free to feel that way and to express it. But the way you did it was REALLY harsh and inappropriate. I thought we could NOT be judgmental asses here. Apparently I was wrong.
hmm, maybe i didnt type it, but i said that im not looking to be added back. the "shitfit" isnt over, and i thought it quite immature to be banned before adding my opinion. being banned for voicing my opinion got me banned, and i couldnt defend my opinion. abbacat said it more bluntly and i did, and i see no offensive nature taken towards that post (not that im looking for it, but its just an observation) How was my original post harsh and inappropriate? I am voicing my opinion, not being a judgemental ass. Maybe i didnt like the fact that i have no control over anything here (which was odd because i co-created this but oh well) and i felt that running a softcore porn ring was inappropriate for a nerdy site. There is tastefully sexy and hot. I guarantee i mnot the only one who knows that. And by the way, i did know that the mods have AIM, however, i had to dig through and decode sogi's info and go through his personal site to find a screen name. chemchick's AIM name is absent from her info too. maybe im blind but i see no screen name
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ok, while I think that the way this user went about expressing his/her opinion was "harsh and inapporpriate", I also think people were equally harsh and inappropriate about NOT listening to it and bashing it. I actually went back and looked at some of the pictures that I didn't have time to view before and was not pleased to see the excessive nudity in some of them. (although several expressed nudity in an artistic/beautiful way.) But that's besides the point. Nudity or not, everyone in the community is entitled to an opinion. I can see why this person got so emotional about it, too...imagine if you created something, it got big and cool, then you noticed it starting to get not-so-cool and then everyone turned on you and hated you. That SUCKS. I know this is just a livejournal community, not a real life group/club, but it's still a not so much fun feeling to have. I think banning this person was a bit overboard. This should have been discussed over e-mail and AIM, for sure, but banning was not the right way to go. Just my opinion.
i will bow down to this. i still dont understand the harshness, however it probably was inappropriate. But banned or not, i will still loom in the corners
Why? Because I was seeing where everything was headed and I knew that if people kept replying back and forth that it WOULD escalate. I took you out of the equation.
I was particularily upset because you said: i'd like to voice my disgustment with this community and also I feel as though this community is having less and less to do with the amount of nerdyness/geekiness/geekiness and more to do with cleavage and 6-pack abs.
I feel dirty to be associated with it.after people had been posting pictures of themselves being hot nerds. SOME of these people who were a bit shy and unsure about posting their pics and I told them that no matter WHAT they looked like, they should be a sexy nerd and post hot pics. I wanted to make it so that people who aren't comfortable with how they look could feel free to post sexy pictures of them and we could all offer them positive encouragement. Instead, these people were met with your resounding opinion of disgustment and dirtiness. I had assured people that they
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i purposely made the mistake, because i knew it would get to people. especially in the community. i might have gotten away with the word in my own journal, but not here.
This isn't ego_crush. I think everyone ought to back up.
Note in the original post that started this lame-ass flame war, mostly the expressions began with "I feel..." I feel cannot be construed as an absolute - it is statement of opinion and as such you cannot attack it on absolute terms.
As nerds/geeks/whatever we have to consider what goes around us in an objective analytical fashion and respond rationally, and that's just not happened here. So what if someone has an opinion you disagree with? It's just a frigging opinion.
It's not as if they said, "amides react with nucleophiles faster than aldehydes."
That's an absolute, and absolutely wrong. If someone were to claim something like that I could see why there would be such an uproar, but this was not stated in objective terms and was a statement of opinion.
Shite dude, it's on accounta tha resonance structures. Push the motherfuckin' lone pair on nitrogen - it seriously reduces the partial positive charge on the bottom of the motherfuckin' carbonyl.
I mostly agree with chemchick. I replied to your other post, so I haven't much to add here, but I will reiterate that the posts here have not been degrading, indecent or anything of the sort. This is a community for people who can take pride in who and what we are. If a few pictures embarrass you so much, that is not our problem.
However, I will also say that I do not think that one should be banned for voicing one's opinion. To paraphrase Voltaire (I think), although I do not agree with what you said, I do think that you have every right to say it.
The entry was made in the context of an observation, and many users have agreed with me. It was an observation that the community became only pictures, and I wasnt to happy about it. I do have the right to voice my opinion. I also do have the right to recieve criticism, not be banned or bashed. If it offended anyone, im making a public appology for that too.
It was an observation that the community became only pictures
actually, if you want to look at the community from an "objective" point of view, not all thoe posts were or have been pictures since then.
if you have your right to voice your opinion, then i most certainly have the right to voice my opinion about your opinion.
you're making an apology? you come back with the lj username "thn_sucks," saying, "we're all being immature..." is that your form of apology? (i'm not trying to make this sound like some huge crime. i just think that you're a little ironic, is all.)
i never said people dont have a right to an opinion about my opinion. i came back with that screen name because i was banned and was unaware because no one contacted me, that i would be gaining my other screen name back. i didnt really believe that i would be unbanned, henceforth the name. i guess that i am wrong on that account, and i do see that my statements could have offended someone, however there are only 2 people that particulat statement seems to have offended.
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I can see why this person got so emotional about it, too...imagine if you created something, it got big and cool, then you noticed it starting to get not-so-cool and then everyone turned on you and hated you. That SUCKS. I know this is just a livejournal community, not a real life group/club, but it's still a not so much fun feeling to have.
I think banning this person was a bit overboard. This should have been discussed over e-mail and AIM, for sure, but banning was not the right way to go. Just my opinion.
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Why? Because I was seeing where everything was headed and I knew that if people kept replying back and forth that it WOULD escalate. I took you out of the equation.
I was particularily upset because you said: i'd like to voice my disgustment with this community and also I feel as though this community is having less and less to do with the amount of nerdyness/geekiness/geekiness and more to do with cleavage and 6-pack abs.
I feel dirty to be associated with it.after people had been posting pictures of themselves being hot nerds. SOME of these people who were a bit shy and unsure about posting their pics and I told them that no matter WHAT they looked like, they should be a sexy nerd and post hot pics. I wanted to make it so that people who aren't comfortable with how they look could feel free to post sexy pictures of them and we could all offer them positive encouragement. Instead, these people were met with your resounding opinion of disgustment and dirtiness. I had assured people that they ( ... )
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You know what, go right ahead. You're still my schmoopie even when you piss me off. <3
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Heh heh, disgustment.
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i purposely made the mistake, because i knew it would get to people. especially in the community. i might have gotten away with the word in my own journal, but not here.
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It's all coming together now.
You don't give a damn about any of this, you're just trying to cause trouble, aren't you? To what end, is the real question.
Interesting.
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Note in the original post that started this lame-ass flame war, mostly the expressions began with "I feel..." I feel cannot be construed as an absolute - it is statement of opinion and as such you cannot attack it on absolute terms.
As nerds/geeks/whatever we have to consider what goes around us in an objective analytical fashion and respond rationally, and that's just not happened here. So what if someone has an opinion you disagree with? It's just a frigging opinion.
It's not as if they said, "amides react with nucleophiles faster than aldehydes."
That's an absolute, and absolutely wrong. If someone were to claim something like that I could see why there would be such an uproar, but this was not stated in objective terms and was a statement of opinion.
I'm really grumpy today, too.
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thanks.
::bows down to the careful eye that notices things as minor as THAT::
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However, I will also say that I do not think that one should be banned for voicing one's opinion. To paraphrase Voltaire (I think), although I do not agree with what you said, I do think that you have every right to say it.
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actually, if you want to look at the community from an "objective" point of view, not all thoe posts were or have been pictures since then.
if you have your right to voice your opinion, then i most certainly have the right to voice my opinion about your opinion.
you're making an apology? you come back with the lj username "thn_sucks," saying, "we're all being immature..." is that your form of apology? (i'm not trying to make this sound like some huge crime. i just think that you're a little ironic, is all.)
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