Gay Marriage - Where's the fury?
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"It promotes the acceptance of gays, as a normal member of society..because it gives them all the same rights as everyone else..which I guess I don't agree with."
There are people out there who somehow believe that gays are not only abnormal deviants, but that any step that brings that lifestyle closer to being accepted as normal is another step on the slippery slope to destroying the moral fabric of our society.
Personally, I rather think that it's silly. But then again, I think laws against polygamy are silly, too.
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Now let's say that one of these spouses wants a divorce. How do you figure out spousal support if they're only divorcing one person and not all? How about the "shared possessions"?
Divorce is difficult enough, as is, without brining innumerable parties into it.
Although from a moral standpoint, I have no problem with poligamy.
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Unfortunately, our current legislative environment is in favor of complication rather than simplicity. It's annoying.
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Neither am I. I do understand that more groups than just Christians have an issue with homosexuality. But it is the Christian faction that seems the most vocal - and generally the most derisive as well.
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That being said, my personal philosophy has always been that I don't particularly care what you do with whom in your own bedroom, as long as you don't force your opinions or beliefs on me. I realize, however, that I'm not typical in this regard. :-)
THAT being said... I don't care. But I think the logic is the exact same thing.
They don't care what you do in your bedroom. As long as you're not shoving it in their faces, making out in front of them and nearly having sex in the streets while yelling, "We're Here, We're Queer!", I don't think it's a very big problem.
In their mind, I guess, you're *forcing* your beliefs on them if you are saying that gay marriage should be legal.
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I'm going to opt to disagree with you until a few conditions are satisfied. Sexual orientation being on the list of hate crimes is also an issue in this election year. Our current president does not believe that hate crimes should include sexual orientation. If it were unnecessary, sure. But I think it is. If a heterosexual couple can be affectionate in public, so should a homosexual couple. Basic rights and liberties. There are state laws out there that are specifically designed to be able to prosecute a homosexual couple, even if the sex is in their bedroom.
In their mind, I guess, you're *forcing* your beliefs on them if you are saying that gay marriage should be legal.Which might carry some weight, if the Constitution and the ideals upon which this country was built weren't explicit in the ( ... )
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Sure. And the states should decide for themselves, if we're looking at the political aspect of the issue.
What blows my mind is the issue itself. What is it about sexual orientation that is so variant from skin color, in terms of civil rights? Why are the liberties and rights afforded to heterosexuals being denied?
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Sadly, the states are largely deciding for themselves, with several having already drafted or passed into law their own mini-DOMAs to prevent recognition of gay marriages. Unlike the era of the Civil Rights movement, however, the federal government is using its power to actually further the goals of a discriminating majority of states and disempowering the (very) few that have politically/legally attempted to support gay marriage or even civil unions along the way.
I'll say nothing of the interesting manner in which religion comes into play despite the supposed Separation interest when Republicans talk about being okay with civil unions but not with marriage.
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It seems to me that much of the political right has zoomed way past "conservative" into something more like "radical reactionary."
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That is a beautiful piece of word construction. Mind if I borrow that sometime?
Again, I do hope I don't sound like I'm condemning Christianity. Far from it.
Although, I must say that for Christians to be boggled by the issue makes it even more boggling.
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So I know that the rational religious person exists. I'm not giving up on that hope.
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Just saying that because my parents have gay friends and they don't hate them, they just don't understand the drive to get married (one thing that my parents and I violently disagree upon).
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That would fully depend on their reasoning behind disagreeing. If, for instance, they oppose gay marriage on the basis that it will destroy the moral fabric of society and undermine the familial structure, I would pretty much say that is classified as viewing homosexuality as something that makes a person less of a person.
Also, there is a difference between not hating something in the manner of bigotry, and supporting each individual's rights.
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