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Feb 21, 2004 12:06

Making out with a cute boy at karaoke night is really fun. Especially when a fratboyish guy gets really annoyed that you're in the way of his pool game. Mnnn. If looks could kill, heh.

Meanwhile, reading J.-P. Sartre's Saint Genet, comédien et martyr last night at a café, I just had to laugh out loud:Par sa crise originelle et par la décision qui ( Read more... )

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littlepinkrobot February 21 2004, 10:29:11 UTC
ooo, where do you go to karaoke? we should go together some time!

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tikarass February 21 2004, 13:15:20 UTC
Some bar in Northampton... I forget the name.

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tikarass February 22 2004, 10:55:30 UTC
it's thursday & friday at the WWII club :)

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tikarass February 21 2004, 11:43:18 UTC
Sartre denies Genet's subjectivity and agency, therein feminizing him and writing his homosexuality as an act of being objectified. The early sexuality isn't relevant, but the crise originelle, fundamental to Sartre's ideas of choice and existence, becomes not Genet's choice of homosexuality but his path to abjection and solitude. The rape becomes the first act of penetration -- penetration from the gaze of others; and, as Sartre argues, that gaze doesn't resemble rape, it is rape. So Genet's homosexuality is the act of him being recognized as an other, not his recognition of his desire, etc.

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helloreplace March 16 2004, 04:04:40 UTC
That's an often debted passage - there are some scholars who see his penetration more sympathetically - a weird intellectualized display of compassion for Genet, ie. he was pushed into homosexuality through his violation/penetration of being recognized as other, which becomes the watershed event in the setup, rather than a backchained rationale of choice. This precipitates Genet creating (herein lies the choosing) a desire for homosexual love. I don't really buy this one as it is a bit tricky, but it was the prevailing wisdom by *native french speaking writers* for a while, which I think means about 20-30 years.

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confuze_a_tron February 21 2004, 20:25:08 UTC
yea, sartre did take himself much too seriously. i used to love sartre, but that's when i took to myself too seriously as well. lol. i think "no exit" is the only thing by him that i still enjoy.

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tikarass February 22 2004, 10:22:28 UTC
hehe, yeah. i made some comment to someone as i was reading that about how i only find his theatre to be worth reading at this point. his existential fiction and psychoanalytic literary criticism are painful.

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newfytron February 22 2004, 02:29:54 UTC
"On se trouve plongé dans une situation que l'on pourrait nommer Post-pédérastique."

That's a bit more familiar, I'd say...

(nice going, Mr. making-out-at-karaoke)

Tramp! :)

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tikarass February 22 2004, 10:19:16 UTC
ha! if that makes me a tramp, i don't know what having woken up in his bed two mornings in a row makes me. hehe.

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