1. First of all, I like the fact that you brought up the Catholic argument. (I have a strong Catholic background and I get you on a lot of these points, although I don't identify as a practicing Catholic - I'll elaborate more in a more private space). I haven't seen that pointed out too much, and her religion is certainly something that's been pointed out a few times.
2. Although it may or not may be MC's job to portray reality; I still think it's my job as a woman to watch media and question myself on how I feel about it's portrayal of women. It doesn't always have to be as deep for me as this conversation has gone but I think it's healthy for us to keep these issues in mind as we watch TV.
Ohhhh Catholicism. It confuses me so much. But in the context of this show, I feel like stick-to-the-rules-Raydor would probably follow the church's teachings - but maybe not! We'll see. I see where you're coming from in terms of media portrayal and yeah - would I prefer they showed it differently? Yes. But perhaps I can't really expect that from this show.
My initial reaction was that I would be disappointed if they used the religious angle; however after I read points like yours; I could see myself being ok with it. Catholicism is still a part of me even if I don't practice and it would be intriguing to see that if they used. Speculation!
It took my like five hours to find your reply! (yeah, I was having a moment lol). But yes.
I really appreciate you taking your time to demonstrate a real life example which, to an extent, mirrors what Duff is trying to show with the Raydor marriage.
I like your points. I don't agree with all of them, but I don't agree with them for my own reasons, not because I think you're wrong, so I'm not going to argue them here (or anywhere, really, for now
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I agree so much with you about Duff. I have been continually disappointed in him as a writer. I have a pretty low opinion of his views. But, like I said..I keep them to myself, because I'm here to support the show, not tear it down, you know? There are a close few I've shared my rants with (and will totally do so with you in a DM if you'd like to have a discussion). But-you're so right. Duff won't be tackling any world issues in any sort of eloquent or responsible way any time soon. From a writing perspective alone, he relies on all the old 'tricks'-this alone will not allow him to tackle anything
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2. She's breaking the sacraments, which means Duff is touching on some sensitive religious issues he perhaps isn't fit to be writing about. I understand so many don't follow all the sacraments, but I wanted to go along further with your idea of following the sacraments and the notion of forgiveness
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I'm in a pub beer garden waiting for a friend and just lol'd at your comment about cloning her hair! I love that the Jackson e character has generated so much interest...but as a brit, I'm yet to have the pleasure - I have to wait until August to have an opinion :-( .
ah! see, this is something i wasn't really paying attention as it was completely normal to my point of view, being catholic... i appreciate you pointing it out! =) thank you
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I agree - MC can make us think, but it's not their role to provide us with the answers.
I was going to make a similar point in my post - yes, to an extent people probably are more annoyed with the fact that he is Sharon's husband, rather than the fact that he is this that and the other. But, I was getting a bit long-winded! I believe that this marriage (how viewers are perceiving it) is messing with people's perception of Sharon as a badass feminist BAMF etc etc.
I'm also not worried by the debate, but it is interesting to see the different perspectives there are on the matter. And, of course, as a teacher of Catholic Doctrine I felt as is I could most definitely lend insight in to the nature of their (apparently very Catholic) marriage.
AND YES THE COMEDY! Oh my Gods the comedy it was amazing.
I believe that this marriage (how viewers are perceiving it) is messing with people's perception of Sharon as a badass feminist BAMF etc etc.
Yes. This. So much this. Do you think that Duff and Mary McDonnell could have spent less time calling her a feminist in the interviews they gave and just let her be who she was, as we discovered her episode by episode? Here's what's so tricky for me-she's repeatedly been called a feminist by the woman who plays her.
Do you think her staying married to Jackson makes her *anti* feminist?
If you're not comfortable answering (or not comfortable answering here and want to answer in DM) that's cool! I just think its an interesting thing to think about!
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2. Although it may or not may be MC's job to portray reality; I still think it's my job as a woman to watch media and question myself on how I feel about it's portrayal of women. It doesn't always have to be as deep for me as this conversation has gone but I think it's healthy for us to keep these issues in mind as we watch TV.
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I was going to make a similar point in my post - yes, to an extent people probably are more annoyed with the fact that he is Sharon's husband, rather than the fact that he is this that and the other. But, I was getting a bit long-winded! I believe that this marriage (how viewers are perceiving it) is messing with people's perception of Sharon as a badass feminist BAMF etc etc.
I'm also not worried by the debate, but it is interesting to see the different perspectives there are on the matter. And, of course, as a teacher of Catholic Doctrine I felt as is I could most definitely lend insight in to the nature of their (apparently very Catholic) marriage.
AND YES THE COMEDY! Oh my Gods the comedy it was amazing.
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Yes. This. So much this. Do you think that Duff and Mary McDonnell could have spent less time calling her a feminist in the interviews they gave and just let her be who she was, as we discovered her episode by episode? Here's what's so tricky for me-she's repeatedly been called a feminist by the woman who plays her.
Do you think her staying married to Jackson makes her *anti* feminist?
If you're not comfortable answering (or not comfortable answering here and want to answer in DM) that's cool! I just think its an interesting thing to think about!
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