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Oct 15, 2009 01:34

[Sora is bored with the rain, and has retreated to the barracks since he can't be outside without getting ridiculously sick. He's idly playing handball against the wall, but mostly he's sitting there thinking way too much.]Hey, so... What's the measure of a "person ( Read more... )

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[Voice] flared October 15 2009, 07:01:45 UTC
Now that's an interesting topic.

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[Voice] valorandwisdom October 15 2009, 07:10:05 UTC
Figured you'd think so. You gonna tell me to memorize the answers or something?

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[Voice] flared October 15 2009, 07:11:45 UTC
Nah, I think you already do. What brought this up anyway?

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[Voice] /was unhappy with that valorandwisdom October 15 2009, 07:15:16 UTC
You, mostly. And some other stuff.

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chaotic_dirge October 15 2009, 08:04:05 UTC
To be aware of one's self is to be a person. To lose any part of that... means a loss of humanity.

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valorandwisdom October 15 2009, 08:05:34 UTC
What's "any part," though? That awareness or the self thing?

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...this is one of his favorite topics EVER BTW XD Thanks, Sora. chaotic_dirge October 15 2009, 08:08:24 UTC
The awareness is what makes the self... the ability to have conscious thought and capability of controlling one's actions.

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YAY expounding Vincent! :D valorandwisdom October 15 2009, 08:23:03 UTC
What about if you do that and you don't have a heart? Are you still a person then?

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[Voice] perplex_me October 15 2009, 10:07:48 UTC
...where'd that come from?

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[Voice] valorandwisdom October 16 2009, 05:52:34 UTC
Kind of... all over the place. [You. Axel. A little Vexen. The weird, weird, weird ordeal of having Xigbar comb "his" hair for him as he bent nearly in half to allow it.]

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[Voice] perplex_me October 16 2009, 05:53:42 UTC
Well...people need to be breathing, right?

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[Voice] valorandwisdom October 16 2009, 06:10:22 UTC
...I don't think all of them do. [That would count out most of Atlantica.]

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wishes_eternal October 15 2009, 10:32:37 UTC
...I suppose...the ability to think for oneself. In the simplest definition of personhood.

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valorandwisdom October 16 2009, 05:54:20 UTC
Do you think "feeling" counts in there?

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wishes_eternal October 16 2009, 10:10:54 UTC
Not in the basic definition. But I suppose if one wants to be philosophical about it, perhaps, although I would still argue that even those who seem unable to feel are still certainly a person.

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valorandwisdom October 17 2009, 22:52:56 UTC
Unable? Like... they choose not to or they just can't?

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chikyu_sakura October 15 2009, 10:52:06 UTC
To be honest... I think it goes beyond any of that.

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valorandwisdom October 16 2009, 05:54:33 UTC
Huh? What do you mean?

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chikyu_sakura October 16 2009, 10:43:22 UTC
Having ideals of right and wrong are not what makes a person, but rather what they do with those ideals.

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valorandwisdom October 17 2009, 22:53:54 UTC
So would you say that someone who tried to... I dunno, take over a world or something wouldn't be a person?

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