Incontinuity?? (re: Charlie)invisibleloveJuly 16 2007, 22:31:19 UTC
Did anyone else notice Charlie's "I don't swim" comment at the beginning of the episode when he comes for Jack about Boone?
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Wasn't he suppossedly a great swimmer and that's why he explained to Jack that he could go down to the underwater Dharma station? I wonder if the writers just forgot they had Charlie say that. Did the writers make a...*GASP* MISTAKE??! ;)
Re: JAS (Jears Appreciation Society)schmissJuly 16 2007, 22:52:48 UTC
The thing that gets me is (I think it was this scene) there's a really loud, honking SNIFF in the midst of the jears. I just picture someone in the postproduction studio overdubbing "SNIFF....SNIFF" into the scene. Lolz.
At first he doesn't, but he also doesn't like any of the alternativesfinchburgJuly 16 2007, 23:41:56 UTC
I think at the beginning it is pretty obvious that he is reluctant about accepting any leadership beyond, "Hey that guy is bleading to death, is there a Doctor around? Oh wait..." But then as things progress he is forced to evaluate not only his position on the island but everyone else's.
If I were Jack, I don't think I would want someone like Locke telling me what to do, or Sawyer... Sayid we know very little about at this point (other than he and Sawyer love to punch eachother). When Jack compares himself to the other possible alpha males on the island he views himself as the best candidate for the role of leader so he starts acting in the manner he feels would be best suited for the greater good.
Shame that "greater good" mentality doesn't end up with him getting the rest of the island to push a really pointy rock off of a cliff so it lands on his own head, but there is still time for a coup. My fingers are crossed.
Jack reminds me of Ralph from Lord of the Flies, he didn’t really want to be the leader but because he had some many qualities needed in a leader he was ‘chosen’. When they made Jack the leader though they messed him up in a way, Jack can’t really handle pressure can he? I think in my personal opinion they should have maybe had a council, with Sayid (they would be dead without him), Jack (they would be dead without a doctor most of them) and Locke (because he knows nature/hunting/he doesn’t give a damn).
For the second point, considering that most episodes have some reference (title, songs with the novel mentioned, the whole surrealism to it all. That they are looking a way off the Island which is like how Alice is on a constant search for the White Rabbit and we know that *SPOILER ALERT LIKE OMG* like Alice with the flash forward that they are not happy/are still searching/*SPOILER ALERT*) we can be sure that they were rereading the novel when they were writing the script.
Follow the White Rabbitamantium_iraeJuly 17 2007, 04:00:08 UTC
Dehydrated, sleep-deprived, and chasing hallucinations of his deceased father, the first thing that Jack asks Locke when The Crazy Mofo finds him by the fire is "How are they?", meaning the other losties. That right there tells me why he's the one everyone looks up to for solutions. People ARE sheep and while I won't go into leader endorsment in social dilemmas and whatnot, it's that herd instinct that tells them that Jack will never sacrifice them to the island, that if a guy runs around pulling people out of a burning wreckage, he's probably the one who won't sleep at night thinking about your safety, pouring his own blood into you, etc
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Wasn't he suppossedly a great swimmer and that's why he explained to Jack that he could go down to the underwater Dharma station? I wonder if the writers just forgot they had Charlie say that. Did the writers make a...*GASP* MISTAKE??! ;)
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Or maybe Boone was not worth saving/taking a risk for/ for Charlie whereas Claire and Aaron were?
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If I were Jack, I don't think I would want someone like Locke telling me what to do, or Sawyer... Sayid we know very little about at this point (other than he and Sawyer love to punch eachother). When Jack compares himself to the other possible alpha males on the island he views himself as the best candidate for the role of leader so he starts acting in the manner he feels would be best suited for the greater good.
Shame that "greater good" mentality doesn't end up with him getting the rest of the island to push a really pointy rock off of a cliff so it lands on his own head, but there is still time for a coup. My fingers are crossed.
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For the second point, considering that most episodes have some reference (title, songs with the novel mentioned, the whole surrealism to it all. That they are looking a way off the Island which is like how Alice is on a constant search for the White Rabbit and we know that *SPOILER ALERT LIKE OMG* like Alice with the flash forward that they are not happy/are still searching/*SPOILER ALERT*) we can be sure that they were rereading the novel when they were writing the script.
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