The White Rabbit

Jul 16, 2007 16:38

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amantium_irae July 17 2007, 04:10:41 UTC
Because I forgot... the Wachowski brough Jean Paul Baudrillard into the mainstream with the first Matrix movie and Postmodernism went Hollywood. When Neo is asked to follow the White Rabbit, he's asleep next to a Baudrillard volume and the entire concept of The Matrix is ripped off from his "Simulations (Foreign Agents)". I suppose that fed some Truman Show theories about the island but they better not end the show with "it was all in X's head", 's all I'm saying...

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miss_universe93 July 17 2007, 09:42:37 UTC
1 - Firstly, if Boone was ever a lifeguard, he must have been really terrible at it, LOL. One thing that always gets me whenever I watch this ep, though, is the way Boone/Ian sounds when he says "I was fine!" as Jack is walking away. Ackkkk. Boone: always tries to do the right thing, always fails.

2 - Sawyer: "Light, comma, sticks. As in those legs of yours." asksls;slajsjdh

3 - As far as I can recall, this is the only time we get to see Jack's mom. I kind of can't believe she'd take her husband's side over her son's when it's clear from the things she says that she knows somewhat that her husband has a drinking problem. I do like the whole allusion to how serious Christian's drinking is, though. "Let one of his friends ( ... )

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amantium_irae July 17 2007, 16:56:07 UTC
1. I think Boone was a lifeguard at one of those swanky Malibu pools. He probably flirted with girls... or guys... or both while sipping expensive booze. But I didn't mind his hapless attempts at being a hero. He was a good kid and unlike the rest of them, at least he TRIED.

3. Margo was written as an Ice Queen. I love Veronica Hammel, I wish they brought her back. Both Jack's mom and pa are perfectly cast as beautiful, screwed up, dysfunctional-type parents.

I kind of can't believe she'd take her husband's side over her son's when it's clear from the things she says that she knows somewhat that her husband has a drinking problem.

Actually, that's typical of co-dependant wives of alcoholics and it's perfectly mirrored in Diane, Kate's mother. I thought it was kind of nice that they paralleled two families, one in the heartland of Iowa and the other one in the ritzy parts of LA like that.

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miss_universe93 July 18 2007, 11:23:32 UTC
1. LOL I was going to say I bet he was some sort of swanky lifeguard that never actually had to save anybody. I loved Boone though. He was indeed a good kid. I always wonder what he would have done with the whole hatch situation and all of the season 2 storylines if he'd lived. I don't tihnk he would have been content with Jack and Locke being in charge of the hatch/the button. It's interesting to think about.

3. Yeah, the more I think about it, the more it makes sense to me like that. And that's a great point about both Jack's mom and Kate's mom, and how it's shown that problems like that don't discriminate between rich and not-so-rich and everything. I would have liked to see more of Jack's mom, just so we get a bit more sense of what she's like.

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idmen July 17 2007, 19:27:14 UTC
I don't think Jack ever wanted to be the leader but I think he needs to be the leader and hero - you know, because of his controlfreakfixingcrazy kinda issues?

I think everyone else also needed him to be leader back at the start though, but some of them started to question his leadership pretty soon and Jack didn't seem to want to back down to anyone then (I can think of Locke and Sayid explicitly, Kate, Sawyer and Michael I think to some extent)...

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christian knows it all fragilepicture July 18 2007, 13:44:50 UTC
so in the end christian shephard (sp?) was damn right!!
lil jack didn't have what it takes to be a leader/hero. he screwed up! and the doc even thinks so too. 'we have to go back!' poor jack for awhile you were really thinking you got everything under control but in the end you sucked.

yeah maybe he was kinda forced into this leader thing but we all have to admid that atleast at some point he enjoyed to be the leader of the losties.

what did we learn from white rabbit? well i think we all learned that christian was right, even if he was drunk. heck drunk peeps & children always say the truth.

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miss_universe93 July 22 2007, 08:13:13 UTC
According to the schedule, weren't we supposed to have had the House Of The Rising Sun discussion post on the 18th?. LOL I guess it got lost in translation Harry Potter mania, eh. It could always be bundled with The Moth.

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miss_universe93 July 22 2007, 08:13:55 UTC
And that was meant to be a strikethrough on "translation". Whoops.

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