question about ffx-2 and summoners

[wildejoy]

I'm worried this question was answered in the game and I'm just missing something very obvious, but... Beclem says that summoners are useless because Sin is gone. But people still die, which means the Sending still needs to be performed. If the fayth are gone, how do people get Sent? Or do they not, and there are just more fiends? Clearly there are

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[owlmoose]

This question is, as far as I can determined, never answered in the game. This is how I handwave it: with Sin gone, people die at a much slower rate, and those who do die are less likely to meet violent ends, so maybe the dead are more able to accept death and find the Farplane on their own, without being Sent.

But if anyone else remembers something from game canon that I'm missing, I'd love to hear it!

[wildejoy]

I hadn't thought of that. That's probably true, but even some people who don't meet violent ends would have reason to hang behind, right? Maybe summoners don't need aeons to Send... I don't know.

[katmillia]

Hmmmmm. You know, I wonder about this because X-2 blows so much to hell in terms of what the Farplane really is. I mean, they are inside the damn thing, and I thought that was supposed to be impossible given that X said about the Farplane and how it worked? I have absolutely no answers for you... and you have blown my mind because I never thought of this before!

[zidane]

derp derp, in from ff_press

You know, the only thing that springs to mind that would make the "summoners are useless" statement make sense is that only people who are killed by Sin need to be Sent?

But that also doesn't fly because of Maechen. HMM.

[wildejoy]

Yeah, Yuna said that fiends were people who didn't accept their deaths... so that could apply to murder victims, for example - or really, anyone. Even someone who died peacefully in their sleep might have left some unfinished business. Fiends are like ghosts, I think, in that sense.

[jlsigman]

The only scene that sort of answers this (but not really) is if you get one of the "bad" endings, and the Ronso youth slaughter the Guado. When you go back to the spring in Macalania Woods were Tromell had been standing afterwords (I guess in Act V, it's been a couple of years since I did this) there's a New Yevon lady there, a priest, who said she came out to Send them, but didn't feel their spirits.

Of course, if priests could do the Sending, why do they say it's one of the things only Summoners do?

I'm guessing it's either a translation snafu or something just thrown together, since it's not one of the endings you're supposed to be trying to get.

[wildejoy]

I've never seen that ending. I would think that must be a translation error, or maybe the writers just messed up! It happens. I'm fairly sure they said several times that only Summoners could Send.

[wildejoy]

I agree, but for all the people like Tidus' mother, there must be a lot who don't. It would surprise me if they wouldn't have any way of dealing with the dead that don't move on.