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[womaninphysics]

I was reading an aritcle about student motivation for my education class last night.  It was interesting.  One point is that, some of the things that we would think would help kids try harder don't work whent he kids have low confidence.  When they think that effort is not correlated with success because they lack ability, they will avoid effort

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[eigenadam]

You also didn't listen to your friends when they said your boyfriend sucked and you should leave him.

And in fairness, I did listen to you (eventually) when you said I should move to Boulder.

[liz3000]

That is interesting. I am having this trouble with many of my students right now, because they really don't see how they have the power to do well if they just try. I wouldn't say you are that way, if you were you wouldn't be where you are right now (and by that I mean a senior grad student who is more educated and smarter than 99.99999% of our population) I think you are just in a slump.

Many times friends in bad situations don't listen. I have made some horrible decisions in my lifetime, and everyone saw it coming but me and tried to help me. The more they tried to intervene, the more I pushed them away, which made it worse because I had completely isolated myself once the situation came to a head. I know it's hard because you want to help them, but sometimes people have to learn from their own experience. Yes, it is right to give them the information you know, but you can't tell them what to do with it. I know it's hard, but other than that, all you can do is just be there when he/she realizes and needs you the most.

[477150n]

I'm not sure if you're talking about SG, but TTP!=DJN by a long shot. I think that between talking to AEC and talking to me, she probably got a balanced picture.

Anyway, I think it's good to tell people what you know. But maybe there's something they need to learn from the experience, even if the decision causes them pain at the time (unless their life is in danger; I've been insistent once when I thought that was true). I've made some bad decisions, but in the end I'm glad that they were always MY bad decisions.

[eigenadam]

Wow, I can't believe I actually understood your comment, 477150n.

SG=SJG; //if you want to be consistent
SJG++;

not just SJG

[womaninphysics]

I thought you might guess that she is a part of the piece, but I don't mind. It isn't SJG specific but she is one of many friends/family members in this type of circumstance (ie. someone telling them about bad stuff but they don't listen and the person just has to sit and wait for the train wreck. Frustrating and sad!) It seems to be a general phonomena that people don't take what their friends and family say to heart. Though Adam is right, some of my friends here didn't like Adam at first, but it was for his sarcastic comments that I have since tried to get him to tone down, since they cause him to be misunderstood so much