I am very concerned...

Apr 30, 2004 09:23

I don't know how many of you have heard about the Michigan Conscientious Objector Policy Act which can be read about in this article here Well today I read that the following states are now considering similiar bills: Minnesota, Vermont, Rhode Island, West Virgina, and Washington. The bill has already been turned down in Wisconisn ( Read more... )

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jasonkt April 30 2004, 07:29:49 UTC
this is almost too crazy to believe...except that this is America, of course. anything goes.

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xxxkaliaxxx April 30 2004, 09:44:32 UTC
Hi, I haven't seen you in my LJ before. :)

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hi jasonkt April 30 2004, 20:18:22 UTC
Hello, I'm Jason. I can't remember exactly which chain of clicks led to your journal, but I like to click around a bit. I read your info page and am looking forward to going over your journal. I guess the only problem is I look at so many, I take forever to read them all.

I too think this is an important means of communication, and a good way to learn about others. A lot of people let themselves be who they really are in their posts. In real life, we've been taught to wear masks and watch what we say and do.

Glad to meet ya :)

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re_set April 30 2004, 07:59:15 UTC
That's absoluteluy terrifying. Isn't a trained doctor morally obligated to aid someone in need of emergency medical attention? Isn't anyone?

Could a gay doctor refuse treatment to a straight patient?

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xxxkaliaxxx April 30 2004, 09:46:17 UTC
Morals in America are such a joke. Especially when it comes to professionals. That's why it's just so pathetic that this bill is being backed up with moral bullshit. It's just a backdrop for people to be prejudice and ignorant without feeling bad about it the next day.

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re_set April 30 2004, 11:02:42 UTC
It's amazing how corporate america, the government and the medical industry can demonstrate that morals have no place in business by their actions, and then further demonstrate it by trying to stand behind morals.

We can't even agree on a definition of what is "decent", how do we think we can base laws on an even more nebulous concept as morality?

I think this is evidence they already don't feel bad. It almost seems like backlash for the recent furor over marraige rights.

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xxxkaliaxxx April 30 2004, 18:42:36 UTC
I think you are right about the marriage rights angle. I definetly see this as backlash. It's just getting really out of hand.

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xxxmariposaxxx April 30 2004, 08:33:47 UTC
My question is...how does a doctor know if his/her patient is gay? Do they have gayness on the thermometer or something? What about bisexuals who are currently in hetero relationships?

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xxxkaliaxxx April 30 2004, 09:51:41 UTC
Heh, don't tell me that you didn't know about the dual use of thermometers! They don't just measure body temperature, that wouldn't be useful at all, they are really a secret ploy used in doctors offices to measure how "gay" an individual is. Thermometers use the Kinsey scale of homosexuality. Don't even get me started on the dual use of stethoscopes...

But seriously, I think their bullshit logic behind the whole thing is that all gay people are open about it and it is easily apparent.

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xxxmariposaxxx April 30 2004, 11:11:13 UTC
Signifiers of Gayness:

-lisp (forget about speech impediment or tongue piercing)

-funny walk (forget about a limp, numbness in leg, or really bad wedgie)

-long hair on males, short hair on women

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porno_poet April 30 2004, 10:18:24 UTC
A few years ago, maybe 5?, I went to my doctor and as part of the general bs that goes on (an assistant takes down weight info, etc), they also asked me what my sexuality was, if I was bi. That really freaked me out cause I was just going for a routine checkup. And I just think the assistant who was, like, this Indian guy, was maybe hoping I was bi or something. LOL. But still, that shocked me.

And as far as Bush goes, it seems like the strongest thing he has going for him is his anti-gay stance. It sucks. I just hope that there are enough anti-Bush voters out there because I don't really think Kerry is that much better.

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xxxkaliaxxx April 30 2004, 18:45:45 UTC
Wow, thanks for sharing that little doctor story. Heh, I cannot believe they asked if you were bi. It's none of their damn business and of course if you had said you were bi they probably would have taken that as you sleeping around with anyone you meet and then they would throw all this STD literature at you and attempt to call you a slut.

Bush is really working the anti-gay stance along with the good Christian bullshit. Honestly, if he gets elected again I have no idea what will happen...I know things will just head straight down the drain.

But yeah Kerry isn't much better although I have read some decent articles about him lately. I can deal with him.

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ex_lupinedre556 April 30 2004, 10:54:01 UTC
I don't know much about the other fields, but regarding pharmacy I know pharmacists do hold the right to refuse any prescription at their discretion. Normally though they don't unless they feel it is something detrimental to the patient, such as a strange dose or the patient is abusing the drug.

As for as refusing to fill the morning after pill? I personally wouldn't, but I can see how some pharmacists might. There is one girl who comes to my pharmacy repeatedly every two weeks with a prescription for the morning after pill. She uses it like birth control. Beyond all moral issues around it, it's terrible for your body to do that repeatedly.

On another note, I don't think it should be anyone's business what your sexual orientation is. If my doctor asked me if I was gay I'd tell him to sit on his thermometer and rotate :)

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xxxkaliaxxx April 30 2004, 19:11:45 UTC
Yeah you are right about parmacists having the right to refuse any prescriptions but not on moral grounds.

And you bring up a good point about the morning after pill, it isn't meant to be a form of birth control and I understand that some people do abuse it like that but that's a very small number because it really isn't that easy to get ahold of in a lot of states.

If my doctor asked me if I was gay I'd tell him to sit on his thermometer and rotate :) Great line there!

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