Comments | zen_pop_culture: not filtered because i'm pretty sure. . .

zen_pop_culture

not filtered because i'm pretty sure. . .

Dec 17, 2004 19:48

. . .that everyone on my friends list knows about The Tran by now. as in, i am FTM. a transgendered guy. transman. whatever you want to call it--assigned female at birth due to the appearance of my junk. said junk contained gonads that mass-produced estrogen that gave me some pretty prominent woman-type characteristics (anyone who has ever seen my ( Read more... )

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loadhan December 17 2004, 17:03:56 UTC

"my voice has pretty much changed, though i still sound like a woman over the phone sometimes"

Yeah, I get that often too. And I'm still mistaken in person sometimes. :p

But I'm glad you can make yourself into what you want to be and thus be happy. :)

zen_pop_culture December 17 2004, 17:34:04 UTC

thanks, pal.

yeah, it's interesting--sometimes i remind myself that it's not only transmen who are mistaken for women (or transwomen who are mistaken for men). people just have really, really silly predilections about columns A and B, and those of us who aren't 100% whatever get flak for it.

though, have you noticed that people feel really stupid when you correct them, and they apologize profusely? ("oh no! i called him a WOMAN! what an insult, an inferior woman!!")

loadhan December 17 2004, 17:42:56 UTC

Actually... I don't think they often apologize to me about it. Or when they do they do it jokingly. Sometimes I think the tone is "Oops, but can you blame me with your long hair and all?" Maybe I'm just reading too much into it. I'm usually not offended... sometimes annoyaed... sometimes more annoyed at my friends who will have to bring it up seconds later as if I hadn't heard it before. :P

zen_pop_culture December 18 2004, 09:00:45 UTC

the hair thing is a good point. like, it probably is the reason most people mistake you for a woman, and at any rate it's a nice ass-covering (no pun intended.) with me, they don't really know what to say, though some people will admit it's because i'm short/look really young. (one server at a Denny's told me, "honey, i didn't think a guy could be as pretty as you." blush. :))

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vic_fontaine_ December 17 2004, 21:57:54 UTC

Gender is definitely something I've become interested in, especially after my recent revelations (read: coming out to myself).

People suck. Society sucks. Mean people suck. Some people just don't get it and never will.

Cheesecake...doesn't suck.

Happy Chrismukkah :-)

zen_pop_culture December 18 2004, 08:57:16 UTC

and Joshie. . .doesn't suck; rather, Joshie is my friend and for that i'm grateful.

happy Christmukkah to you too :) :) :)

flyingoctopus December 18 2004, 07:20:24 UTC

I feel enlightened :)

Thanks for sharing.

zen_pop_culture December 18 2004, 08:58:08 UTC

glad to help. :) thanks for reading.

shlamachaverim December 18 2004, 19:17:21 UTC

I'm so lucky that my trans friends are so open and willing to talk about it. :-) Personal testimonials are important.

zen_pop_culture December 19 2004, 01:06:05 UTC

***hug*** and your trans friends are lucky that you're so willing to listen! :)

wolf2feathers December 19 2004, 11:37:12 UTC

Hey Nick, I know you're pretty sure about your masculinity when we're on the Astral plane together. Maybe it would be a good idea to do some daily meditation on your inner self. Would only take 15 to 20 minutes a day and I feel a lot of your worries could be alleviated. Glad to hear that you are enjoying the effects of the testosterone. Just think, most Spiritualists go for years trying to find both masculine/feminine characteristics within themselves to blend them together; you have a head start. I was troubled for years when younger due to having a feminine soul with a father who expected me to grow into a man before I was even a teen. We all have masculine and feminine aspects in life. I feel I've finally found my balance. It took a lot of meditation but I wouldn't give it up for the World.

zen_pop_culture December 19 2004, 20:38:12 UTC

thanks for your support, Paul, and how right you are. this society tends to put people into binaries, saying we can only be one or the other, and gender is not exempt. this experience has turned everything i ever learned about what it means to be a man or a woman on its head. and finding a balance, as you mentioned Spiritualists striving to do, is so important. it would be interesting if everybody went through a real-life test--that is, everyone had to go out into society presenting and attempting to pass as a gender other than their own. now, THAT would lend som perspective.

here is an interesting link about how Lakota tribes view transgender identity:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikte