So in the end the sinner and the saint, rapist and rape victim, murderer and deceased, young whom haven't developed faith, sick who have lost the ability to believe, will be saved beacause they have been faithful. It can't be that simple. Because if it were, we would understand the workings of God and Jesus Christ--two entities who work in mysterious ways, as it were.
But it is that simple. That saying about being faithful, Mother Teresa said it. She did a lot of good things but that wasn't what would've made her ok to go to Heaven it was being faithful, or obeying what the Lord had commanded her. God has already decided that our sins have made us unfit for heaven but He wants us there so he gave us an atonement for everything, a forgiveness for every sin. That was Jesus Christ. Being faithful means obeying and accepting that forgiveness and that is the only requirement to heaven. When you accept Him in your life, He changes you and conforms you and that "being good" comes from Him not from us. Because it's about being faithful not succesful
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Nicely done in dodging the issue. I, however, will address yours. Disregarding the fact that there's no way to prove faith and religion to be anything beyond the imaginative workings of a child, which lends itself to the difficult to determining which faith is correct, there are still problems with the premises you've laid you. If accepting faith is what changes you, then there is no longer free will. The person who gets into heaven is no longer him/her self. The only way the person makes it is if the change comes from within--that the person who adopts faith chooses to change. You, no longer are the person who goes into heaven, but the person you'd been conformed into does. As for the bible being a tool for understanding, that hasn't worked out very well. Every sect in christianity claims to hold the true understanding of the bible. All it has done is convoluted man's understanding. And so wars have been fought, clearly proving that they do not. This is of course assuming that the bible itself has divine meaning.
the standard for allcryptic_rogueAugust 7 2006, 01:59:54 UTC
"For whoseoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of libery." James 2:10-12.
"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgement, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil." Ecclesiastes 12:13,14
Re: the standard for allanger_of_angelsAugust 7 2006, 02:55:43 UTC
So basically there is not cut off criteria, but a whole package application deal. Everybody sins, the commandments are violated continuously--hypocrisy is the flavor of the times. He who fought to display the ten commandments upon public buildings did now know all ten commandments. If we're all destined and doomed to hell, to pay for the evils we've wrought, what point is there to gain salvation? If our souls our lost after judgment day, would it not be better to have lived our free life to the fullest?
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"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgement, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil." Ecclesiastes 12:13,14
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