So I saw The Hobbit

Dec 15, 2012 12:09

Due to the computer trouble (see the previous entry) and also my general and regrettable allergy to deadlines, I haven't finished the Breaking Dawn thing yet. However, even if I do finish it this weekend… I'm not sure when it will be appropriate to post it, given the really, really awful events in Connecticut. Charlie's Over-Protective Father ( Read more... )

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lurkeriatipsos December 15 2012, 21:26:20 UTC
And Peter Jackson no longer has a working relationship with subtlety

He's gone back to his roots, then?

*still hasn't seen Braindead*

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cleolinda December 16 2012, 17:45:43 UTC
I know, right? He had, however, gotten kind of subtle with the LOTR movies... wait, maybe it's (some of the) actors who are subtle and I'm just giving him the credit. Still, I feel like Aragorn's big scene at Amon Hen was still A LITTLE less overblown than Thorin charging Azog.

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lurkeriatipsos December 17 2012, 12:11:19 UTC
Well, Boromir was dying at the time, which kind of lends itself to a more subdued and srs bsns fight scene. Still, it sounds really similar: action guy fights the made-for-the-movie villain because otherwise everyone will notice that the movie doesn't really end, it just . . . stops.

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katieupsidedown December 15 2012, 22:10:50 UTC
I enjoyed the movie quite a bit, although I wasn't a fan of the book or the cartoon (both put me to sleep at an age where I was regularly reading and enjoying adult fiction and non-fiction ( ... )

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hopeandmemory December 16 2012, 02:16:36 UTC
i don't know, i felt they did a pretty good job differentiating the dwarves. i can tell them all apart now, whereas in the book they had essentially no character development at all aside from thorin and balin (and bombur, i guess). i loved ori's "i'm not afraid" bit, dori's endless politeness, bofur's obliviousness and yet complete sincerity, and the way fili and kili played off one another so well and showed themselves to be a little naive and callous sometimes (the thing about the orcs that leads into thorin's Tragic Backstory). i think we could have gotten more out of gloin, bifur, and nori, but i'm sure they'll have more introductory material in the extended dvd. (not to count my chickens before they hatch, but we all know it's going to happen.

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sianmink December 16 2012, 04:28:51 UTC
Sorry to disappoint but they digitally de-aged Elijah Wood, Hugo Weaving and Cate Blanchett.

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katieupsidedown December 16 2012, 04:30:38 UTC
I've seen recent pictures of him. I stand by my earlier comment, regardless of what they thought was necessary for the film.

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ladyvyola December 15 2012, 22:16:11 UTC
I, too, imprinted early on the Rankin-Bass version, with my brother and I listening to the record version over and over. So I was stuck on the Hans Conreid characterization of Thorin as Grumpy Old Man Who Wants His Money Back ( ... )

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hopeandmemory December 16 2012, 02:19:01 UTC
all of the hot dwarves die - fili and kili get it in the end, too. NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. :( just kill off all of my favorites, then, why don't you, tolkien. (disclaimer: fili and kili were my faves for some reason long before their casting, i didn't just jump on the hot dwarf bandwagon like i did with legolas back in the day, rofl.)

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sevenmarie December 17 2012, 20:42:03 UTC
:( i didn't remember that they died. so now i have to watch Aidan Turner die again? I don't know if my fan-girl heart can take it.

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rissa333 December 16 2012, 02:22:49 UTC
Sure, we were all ready for the Hotness of Men in LOTR. And we pretty much expected the Hotness of Elves, too. But John Rhys Davies, bless his heart and long may he wave, really did not prepare us for the Hotness of Dwarves. UNF

You said it better than I could've. I left the theatre very confused. And warm. And since I know what happens to the three now-hot-onscreen dwarves at the end of the book, it's going to make it so much harder when the time comes.

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cleolinda December 16 2012, 17:49:13 UTC
Thank you! The movie opening Friday worked pretty well for me. :)

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harper_knight December 15 2012, 23:06:02 UTC
I totally agree with the whole 'Good Fantasy Movie but not Good Hobbit Adaptation' description; that's how I've been talking about it ever since I saw it. Perhaps once all three are out we'll cut scenes from all three down into one movie's worth of time and have a decent adaptation of the book.

Also, I agree about Elrond on a Horse, he looks pretty fantastic. But the whole Gandalf/Galadriel thing was way overdone, I mean.. seriously Peter Jackson does know she's got a husband right, he even put the guy in the other movies.

I really don't approve of what they did to Radagast though. There's nothing in the books that suggests he's anything like.. that. Sure, he's a protector of animals, and sure Saruman didn't like him, but he's one of the Maiar for fuck's sake, not some three-stooges idiot in a forest.

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cleolinda December 16 2012, 17:56:20 UTC
The interesting thing to me about Gandalf/Galadriel is that I didn't really read it as romance. I was intrigued because I couldn't quite put my finger on what it was. Like, it wasn't quite maternal, but... as far as I remember, Gandalf, as a Maia, is actually far more powerful than Galadriel, and yet he's the one who has to run around with everyone, standing there tired and aged with dirty nails. It seemed like some kind of respectful sympathy and gratitude on Galadriel's part, and Gandalf seemed surprised and touched. She's kind of a caretaker type anyway, I think.

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wendyzski December 17 2012, 02:12:25 UTC
yes - he is given the red ring by Cirdan

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