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May 14, 2010 22:20

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afterandalasia April 9 2014, 18:45:31 UTC
Okay, so yes, we should stop clogging up the thread over here with HTTYD talk. I know it's not Disney, but Elsa & Hiccup friendship is also fast becoming one of my favourite things, pfft ( ... )

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HTTYD Thread [Frozen Mention] ashleybenlove April 9 2014, 21:53:46 UTC
Hiccup (and/or other HTTYD characters) getting to interact with Disney characters is something I like too. But then again, any of my favorite characters from different properties is something I crave. XD ( ... )

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Re: HTTYD Thread [Frozen Mention] afterandalasia April 10 2014, 14:22:12 UTC
It's odd, actually, but I find Toothless a lot easier to write than, say, Randall from Monsters Inc/U. Because Toothless acts like a cat, moves like one as well, whereas Randall...actually moves more like a reptile, I think. Only I've never owned a snake or lizard, and the closest I get is talking to the ones at the pet shop. They blink back. But Toothless's body language is easy to read and to write, for me at least, whereas Randall is sort of human and sort of not so it's harder. Sorry, that's just been in my head because I've been thinking about Monsters again lately. *files away ( ... )

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Re: HTTYD Thread [Frozen Mention] ashleybenlove April 10 2014, 15:19:10 UTC
Yeah, I get ya. It's incredibly profound, because two creatures who can't actually speak the same language (human-language and animal-language) manage to have an incredible bond. Hiccup looked at this dragon and empathized with it. What a great character.

Elsa gets to be herself with Toothless. He doesn't care that she has ice powers. Except, hey I get to shoot at ice, that's fun!

Ooh, Disney does have a handful of dragons in Disney. Hmm, Mushu could be related to Terrible Terrors, somehow. Chinese variant perhaps? Or an ancestor to the Terror. He also talks too... so there's that. Gosh, if Mushu and Mulan met Toothless and Hiccup, oh my gosh. FuckYeah, Maleficent being Toothless's mum is certainly an idea of how this dragon who's called the unholy offspring of lightning and death itself came about. Aside from, you know, the normal ways. I like to think that Freyja and Thor are actually his parents. Thor being the god of lightning and Freyja being one of the gods of death in Norse Mythology. But that's probably because I love ( ... )

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Re: HTTYD Thread [Frozen Mention] afterandalasia April 11 2014, 17:44:08 UTC
(Hahaha, I broke the comment length limit with this. That makes it longer than some of my fics ( ... )

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Re: HTTYD Thread [Frozen Mention] afterandalasia April 11 2014, 17:45:03 UTC
I'm still not 100% sure about whether I want it that way round with Elsa and Toothless, but I'm trying to do something a bit different from the film, and fix ankle -> fix tail sort of made sense in my head. But on the other hand, it would mean that Elsa and Toothless meet first, and I don't want to undermine the Hiccup & Toothless friendship. I just want a BroT3, damnit. And I'm running out of hands, but I feel like Elsa (no weapons, smells of magic) might spook Toothless less than Hiccup at first, but he ends up closer to Hiccup because Hiccup is willing to ride him, while Elsa is just like oh HELL no that is not happening.

...am I babbling enough yet?

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Re: HTTYD Thread [Frozen Mention] ashleybenlove April 11 2014, 18:46:12 UTC
Nah, it's totally cool. I just thrive on being able to talk about my favorite things with people.

Huh, so dragons might be able to produce asexually, cool. I always just sort of imagined that Hiccup would come across dragon mating and realize, oh yeah, Snoggletog is coming up, they're going to have babies. And also be super uncomfortable. Or take notes (Fishlegs would totally take notes.) I bet when dragon mating season comes around it is fucking loud around Berk and everyone's just like, "Hiccup." And he's like, "What? What do you want me to do about it? Tell them, hey can you please stop roaring so loud while you have dragon sex? Oh Hel naw. I'm going to go fly. Let's go Toothless."

Do reptiles go into heat or anything like that?

I've read a few really great fics where Hiccup finds out Toothless is a girl because Toothless has babies. Two of my favorites are: "Small Surprises" by thefrogg and "EGGS?!" by lalaiethaI tend to read Toothless as male, but I love the idea of him being female, too. I just love him so much, so it doesn ( ... )

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Re: HTTYD Thread [Frozen Mention] afterandalasia April 14 2014, 18:02:58 UTC
Oh my god, I just read both of those stories and pfff they are adorable. Toothless stealing every blanket in sight oh man. And it makes the, "Great. My first girlfriend is a dragon." from the episode with the baby Typhoomerang even funnier. And I love that Astrid is calm while Hiccup is flailing because, well, that's Hiccup. Good with dragons, not so much with the people.

Yeah, it's the ZW sex-determination system, and while wikipedia probably isn't the best resource in the world, it is at least readable. And that's still far from the only sex-determination system other than XY - we've got at least one prompt about the fact that clown fish spontaneously change sex, the temperature thing like affects some snakes and turtles, and loads of others. Or even one which only exists in dragons because they're goddamn dragons. I was probably remembering reading these examples about komodo dragons, though, because they're called dragons and also because they're awesome scary. (And bigger than me. But many things are ( ... )

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Re: HTTYD Thread [Frozen Mention] ashleybenlove April 14 2014, 19:42:37 UTC
That's a perfect description of Hiccup. He's great with dragons, not so great with people. Reminds me of another character I like (Bones' Temperance Brennan who is great with bones but not great with people). I especially loved the fact that Astrid's like, "I'm not calling you honorary dad because it's funny" and it's just so perfectly true. And for some reason, it's just so lovely. Like their bond is so great that he pretty much is a dad to any offspring Toothless has ( ... )

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Re: HTTYD Thread [Frozen Mention] afterandalasia April 17 2014, 11:19:56 UTC
Daddy Hiccup is just d'aw. Seeing him playing with the baby dragons in Gift of the Night Fury (which I have FINALLY watched; I've now seen all of the episodes and they are adorable from every angle. And GotNF is where that flailing-dragon gif comes from) just made me wibble. And the baby Gronckles are too adorable, omg.

I've heard that Astrid/Hiccup will be an official couple by HTTYD2. When Hiccup looks like he does in your icon and askhgka is that really the same person. Though I suppose he still doesn't fit Viking appearance standards. (I'm waiting on the Hiccup/Jack fics using HTTYD2 Hiccup where Hiccup is the top and the assertive one and Jack is the bishie younger bottom, just because it will be so funny.) And I do ship Astrid/Hiccup, though not to the desperate OTP extent that I have fallen in love with Kida/Milo, and I definitely see the similarities ( ... )

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Re: HTTYD Thread [Frozen Mention] ashleybenlove April 17 2014, 15:32:38 UTC
Gift of the Night Fury is basically Hiccup looking like a baby while also squeeing over baby dragons and pining for Toothless. And it's so great.

To be fair, Fishlegs and Snotlout are the only ones to fit with Viking appearance standards (which is muscles, basically), whereas everyone else is skinny and tall (Snotlout's short, though, but he's still taller than me. Thor Bless the HTTYD website and Dreamworks for including height information.)

I get the feeling that by the time HTTYD2 occurs, they've been together years (probably ~5 years, given that it takes place 5 years later), and they're practically married but not really (or practically engaged but not really). I get the feeling that Stoick's putting the pressure on them to get married, though ( ... )

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Re: HTTYD Thread [Frozen Mention] afterandalasia April 23 2014, 17:23:32 UTC
I'm not usually a big OTP'er, but I definitely ship them pretty hard. They're a preference, at least.

Stop making me want to write this fic, omg. I don't have any excuse because it's not even Disney and I have so much freaking stuff I SHOULD be working on right now. But am not, because I fail at life and keep getting distracted by other shiny prompts.

Hookfang probably wonders why he got stuck with the stupid human, but he can't swap now because who else would look after the chump? Kinda like how cats think about their humans.

(ON THAT NOTE, I accidentally a second cat, another stray, and it is the cutest thing. askjghdh I just wanted to say that.)

Say, have you seen the Talking Kitty videos on Youtube? They're hilarious; this guy films his cat and dubs it so that it looks like the cat is talking. I have serious intentions of using HTTYD clips so we have Toothless going, "Oh, fuck off" instead.

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Re: HTTYD Thread [Frozen Mention] ashleybenlove April 24 2014, 01:32:37 UTC
Oopsie! XD

Hookfang totally would think Snotlout's a chump. Well, Snotlout is kind of a chump, lol. But he's a precious chump.

(Congrats on your new kitty cat!)

Oh my Thor, those videos are freaking glorious. Thank you for telling me about them, because wow, so freaking funny. And I can totally see Toothless saying stuff like "Fuck off, Hiccup, gods." I dunno if you've seen the first five minutes of HTTYD2 that Yahoo Movies has posted on Youtube (it's here if you're curious), but like, basically some of the Hiccup and Toothless interaction, like, totally that. Like, it totally feels like they're seconds away from calling each other assholes in an affectionate manner. Which is probably their friendship after five years of knowing each other.

This is why I love sequels because gosh, I get to see these characters again and see how in the intervening time they've grown and yay seeing characters again. I mean, in the roughly ten years between TS2 and TS3 for example, like everyone goes from being ostensibly coworkers to to being a ( ... )

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Re: HTTYD Thread [Frozen Mention] afterandalasia April 28 2014, 16:37:20 UTC
ARGH ARGH ARGGGGGHHHH OMG I want it. Waaaant it. That is the cutest thing, odd as it sounds I really love Toothless's characterisation there. Because human(oid) characterisation is something we're pretty used to doing, but non-human(oid) characters are harder. And Toothless is adorably consistent throughout.

Seeing Hiccup older and hotter is a little... unsettling. A little bit like what happened seeing Sulley go from a generation older than me to a few years younger. *blinks*

Now my housemate is also getting into the TV series. Watching Dagur the second time round is even more unsettling because woah, Dagur is completely Mr. McRapeyface. Like, someone must have looked at the character and gone, "Creepier... creepier... yep, there. THAT is how rapey we need him to be." What the hell.

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Re: HTTYD Thread [Frozen Mention] ashleybenlove April 28 2014, 18:04:01 UTC
I wish I had an accurate word to describe Toothless's laugh that. Like, it's some sort of rumble sound or whatever and it's almost offputting and scary but I just love that sound. Probably because that beautiful dragon is so darn happy. And Toothless's characterization is perfect. Same precious little baby as before, only 5 years older and maybe a mite bigger. And his friendship with Hiccup is even stronger.

I personally felt a bit offput by Sulley being younger mostly because of some of his behavior is so different than he is in MI. It's like, no, Sulley please don't act like a dbag you're supposed to be a sweet ball of fluff stop it.

Maybe the unsettling bit is the change in age and how you can react to him now? Instead of calling him a precious adorable baby (as he his as a teenager), you can call him a total hottie (at 20). Yeah, it is unsettling. Like, wait a minute, I knew you when you a kid.

I completely agree about Dagur. His face plus the way he acts around Hiccup, ESPECIALLY in The Night and The Fury.... total rapey ( ... )

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Re: HTTYD Thread [Frozen Mention] afterandalasia April 28 2014, 20:11:41 UTC
It sounds a bit like a tiger's chuffing to me? But it is hard to not use made-up words. :p Like, I ended up saying murr and chirp and chirrup because those are the sort of words I've seen/used on various cat-related websites. And you're right, he's got to be a bit bigger because Hiccup hangs off his neck still and Hiccup is taller as well.

Sidenote: Itchy Armpit is still more imaginative than Eel Island. Toothless should name more places.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Dagur is under the impression that Hiccup is going to kill Stoick to take over the Viking tribe. Again, the Night and the Fury episode.

He only gets rapier as the seasons go on, though, damn. Going from "little girly hands" to "pucker up [... to] kiss my boots", and then that cut off sentance that ended with the word "ramming" WHERE WERE YOU GOING WITH THAT DAGUR.

It's a little disconcerting, because he starts off as a sort of ~comedy villain~ and then turns out to be the big bad of the seasons, while Alvin and Mildew get redeemed. Unexpected.

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