For true - and I did try to amend that by asking that ppl identify as fanartist if that's what they do at least more than 50% of their fanvolvement; but there are the rare and precious jewels like you and trick. If only I had the power to edit poll quesitons in hindsight, ahh well!
I feel like whatever artistic medium one uses to create works as fanart if they are inspired by or paying tribute to their fandom of choice. I may not understand everything that's being made, but I don't think that discounts it.
And I must say that much of the handcrafts and knitting I've come across should certainly be considered fan art.
And again, my wordaging has failed me, which is why I am not a speaker or writer in any respect: any and all crafts and sculptures and dolls and wire-frames and matchbook houses etc I encompassed in my first poll choice "hand-drawn/handmade traditional (2D and 3D)".
My mistake - I should have included a eye-catchword like 'craft' instead of 'handmade' or '3D'. D'oh!
Ah, that would be me not looking really closely at the categories. At least you didnt call the crafters "those peeps who make things out of popsickle sticks and pom poms." ;)
I checked this opion because I think there are vector/Bézier drawn arts (i.e. using Illustrator) which can be considered as "hand-drawn" arts, like a lot of illustrators do nowadays. But, they should be separated with photograph copies or photograph-based vector arts (traced images), IMO.
Not that I really think those vector-drawn illustrations are "hand-drawn" in a traditional way, though-- because you don't have to learn how to control your line(hand) if you use vector/Bézier softwares, you know. *is an old-fashioned doodler* Oh well, digital painting's Undo function should take the same criticism... I'd shut up now. LOL
Agreed! That bezier-line curve stuff is a talent in itself. I've tried 'drawing' in Illustrator using vector and curves, but I find the thinking process is SO much different from drawing something by hand. It's kind of amazing!
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I really enjoy stuff like naadi's animated story using LEGO figurines, and surprising things like cauldroncakebkr's Sorting Hat Cake. I wish there was more sculpture/wizarding gadgets/homemade sugar quills and the like - traditional illustration is fine (and I do love the art in it), but it's so much fun when fans do things like cauldroncakebkr's cake, Hogwarts staff finger puppets, illustrated excerpts of books on magical plants, moving paintings, etc.
I'm not really here... I've already forgotten what I answered to those questions >_<
Once more my wordage has failed me - I assumed people would understand that the poll option 'hand-drawn/handmade traditional (2D and 3D)' includes, well, all handmade 3D stuffs. D'oh!
Anyway,I think the beauty of the HP-fanworld is that it lends itself to the creation of so many types of crafts. Many other fandoms don't have this sort of creativity open to them (unless it's like the old school ones like Star Trek or Star Wars), but it's always so lovely to see the HP artists take advantage of their fandom's freedom.
In a way, I like to think we in the HP fandom are paving the way for more fandoms to incorporate more unconventional fanworks. Writing and drawing are certainly very accessible venues via the interweb, but if we can encourage crafters and even vidders to access the internet to convey their creations, it can only get more widespread from here. Yay! :D
You know if any area of art could use some modern art influences it's fanart. It's always struck me that fanart is narrowly defined as 2d hand drawn (either digitally or traditionally)art, which leaves out photography, and all 3d art from cosutmes to sculpture to foods
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I don't, however, feel that taking a picture of Tom Felton, changing it to Black and white, and making his hair green is art. But it'd be considered fanart for archiving purposes. AA has pretty much shaped my definitions of art, for good or bad.
I think there's a certain level of creativity either in technique, idea, or presentation,(or all of the above) that must be there before something is art, But isn't that all subjective? Aren't you in affect saying "you've gotta be what I consider good to be art" and isn't that in effect limiting? What about all the manips that aren't very good but have tons of fans who are walking away with something because of the piece? I think the problem with trying to define fanart is that it's like trying to define art.
But it'd be considered fanart for archiving purposes. AA has pretty much shaped my definitions of art, for good or bad.
Actually AA is probably the least restrictive and even we did have some restriction and what would and would not be considered art.
The issue with photomanips is that unless they are changed significantly from the original, you are basically using another's art to make art. Now I'm all for art appropriation, but there's usually significan changes made when art is approrpiated for other use.
To me, a lot of the "ohhh look I ran this through ONE Filter on Photoshop! It's art!" submissions are too much like "Found Art" and I never bought Duchamp's claims about found art being art. He put a toilet in an art show. That's not IMHO art. It's a way of looking at something that might lead to new and interesting art, but to me, the toilet by itself was not art.
you've gotta be what I consider good to be art"Oh no, there's lots of things I don't consider good at all that I still have to grudgingly admitt are art (80% of
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It's a way of looking at something that might lead to new and interesting art, but to me, the toilet by itself was not art. But isn't him looking at the toilet and seeing art sort of qualify it as art?
I want to see effort or though. Or effort and thought Then is a one off sketch done in 5 minutes not art? Even if it's fabulous? What about mindless sketches in class? Is it only art if it's intended to be art? (But then wouldn't the manips with just a filter be art, and they probably did have some thought put in. Which picture, which filter?)
Anything can be art but not everythign is art, and too many modern artists ran with the latter idea rather than the former, which is why modern art is seen as such a joke to the public.Honestly, I'm one of those people who has very little patience for modern art ('specially conceptual) but I guess I still consider it art. I just saw the stupid sheet (staple of modern dance) during a ballet and was cracking up 'cause it was just so silly and not conveying what was intended and looked like a
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And I must say that much of the handcrafts and knitting I've come across should certainly be considered fan art.
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And again, my wordaging has failed me, which is why I am not a speaker or writer in any respect: any and all crafts and sculptures and dolls and wire-frames and matchbook houses etc I encompassed in my first poll choice "hand-drawn/handmade traditional (2D and 3D)".
My mistake - I should have included a eye-catchword like 'craft' instead of 'handmade' or '3D'. D'oh!
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I checked this opion because I think there are vector/Bézier drawn arts (i.e. using Illustrator) which can be considered as "hand-drawn" arts, like a lot of illustrators do nowadays.
But, they should be separated with photograph copies or photograph-based vector arts (traced images), IMO.
Not that I really think those vector-drawn illustrations are "hand-drawn" in a traditional way, though-- because you don't have to learn how to control your line(hand) if you use vector/Bézier softwares, you know. *is an old-fashioned doodler*
Oh well, digital painting's Undo function should take the same criticism... I'd shut up now. LOL
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I'm not really here... I've already forgotten what I answered to those questions >_<
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Anyway,I think the beauty of the HP-fanworld is that it lends itself to the creation of so many types of crafts. Many other fandoms don't have this sort of creativity open to them (unless it's like the old school ones like Star Trek or Star Wars), but it's always so lovely to see the HP artists take advantage of their fandom's freedom.
In a way, I like to think we in the HP fandom are paving the way for more fandoms to incorporate more unconventional fanworks. Writing and drawing are certainly very accessible venues via the interweb, but if we can encourage crafters and even vidders to access the internet to convey their creations, it can only get more widespread from here. Yay! :D
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But it'd be considered fanart for archiving purposes. AA has pretty much shaped my definitions of art, for good or bad.
I think there's a certain level of creativity either in technique, idea, or presentation,(or all of the above) that must be there before something is art,
But isn't that all subjective? Aren't you in affect saying "you've gotta be what I consider good to be art" and isn't that in effect limiting? What about all the manips that aren't very good but have tons of fans who are walking away with something because of the piece? I think the problem with trying to define fanart is that it's like trying to define art.
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Actually AA is probably the least restrictive and even we did have some restriction and what would and would not be considered art.
The issue with photomanips is that unless they are changed significantly from the original, you are basically using another's art to make art. Now I'm all for art appropriation, but there's usually significan changes made when art is approrpiated for other use.
To me, a lot of the "ohhh look I ran this through ONE Filter on Photoshop! It's art!" submissions are too much like "Found Art" and I never bought Duchamp's claims about found art being art. He put a toilet in an art show. That's not IMHO art. It's a way of looking at something that might lead to new and interesting art, but to me, the toilet by itself was not art.
you've gotta be what I consider good to be art"Oh no, there's lots of things I don't consider good at all that I still have to grudgingly admitt are art (80% of ( ... )
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But isn't him looking at the toilet and seeing art sort of qualify it as art?
I want to see effort or though. Or effort and thought
Then is a one off sketch done in 5 minutes not art? Even if it's fabulous? What about mindless sketches in class? Is it only art if it's intended to be art? (But then wouldn't the manips with just a filter be art, and they probably did have some thought put in. Which picture, which filter?)
Anything can be art but not everythign is art, and too many modern artists ran with the latter idea rather than the former, which is why modern art is seen as such a joke to the public.Honestly, I'm one of those people who has very little patience for modern art ('specially conceptual) but I guess I still consider it art. I just saw the stupid sheet (staple of modern dance) during a ballet and was cracking up 'cause it was just so silly and not conveying what was intended and looked like a ( ... )
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