Glenn Greenwald Is Insane

Dec 21, 2008 12:56

This is from Greenwald's December 19 Salon column. I don't understand how anyone can actually write this with a straight face ( Read more... )

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purplehaze9 December 21 2008, 19:12:56 UTC
Satire imo

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howardtreesong December 21 2008, 19:26:09 UTC
From Greenwald? No chance. That comment is in no way satirical. Here's the link where you can find it; it's well down the page:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/

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purplehaze9 December 22 2008, 01:22:33 UTC
Well, I was trying to find some sensible reason on why somebody would put that in writing.

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prock December 21 2008, 19:50:24 UTC
I really don't have a benchmark to measure it by. Not really knowing much about the history of American politics (I recall something about an XYZ incident) all I can say is that they were certainly more compliant than the Gingrich congress. Were the Democrats under Reagan more compliant? I don't imagine those under Nixon were.

Who are the other candidate congress'?

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howardtreesong December 22 2008, 02:11:05 UTC
Any. In fact, the way I read it, it's not limited to America or congress: it's any opposition party anywhere, any time. Been listening to Reid and Pelosi much?

His contention is so absurd that I can barely stand it.

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combinatorial December 22 2008, 15:05:57 UTC
In the immediate aftermath of 9-11 (i.e. Bush's first term, the run-up to and execution of the Iraq war) the Congressional Democrats and the news media were absolutely guilty of embracing the demented Caesarism which gave the executive branch carte blanche. The faintest hint of dissent was chastised as unpatriotic, and the few Democrats willing to stand in front of that train were simply not taken seriously (e.g. Kucinich).

It seems you are conflating very recent (2007-2008) demspeak with the period he's actually referring to (2001-2003).

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howardtreesong December 22 2008, 16:13:51 UTC
Except that I'm not, which you'll see if you read the article. My bad, though, it's a pain to find because the page is so long. Here's the very next paragraph down from the one I cited, which quite clearly establishes that Greenwald thinks this went on all the way through 2007 ( ... )

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blogger74226314 December 29 2008, 06:29:55 UTC
To rebut the hyperbole of Froomkin on the "existence of Congress" without much thought, you can note that Bush failed to open up parts of Alaska for oil drilling, and failed to replenish the federal judiciary. One can cite similar vicissitudes throughout the era. The quoted articles largely concentrate on one or two elements (the war, or the budget), and perhaps exaggerate their import. I'd say the whole run was about what one might expect with a cohabitation (In France, they call it "cohabitation" when the President and National Assembly have different affiliations).

I would agree that in the USA the Federal branch has become more powerful than its coequal beginnings, in the case at hand, largely because of the veto threat as a negotiating ploy. My guess is that Pelosi and Reid will essentially run the country under Obama, though this is not particularly odd for the Legislative Branch to have the greatest impact on domestic policy.

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