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Jul 01, 2006 19:43

If...If you don't remember something anymore, at what point does it become like it never happened ( Read more... )

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kara_marie July 2 2006, 05:01:06 UTC

I dunno. I think people are better off not knowing themselves. Too much introspection leads to bad company at best, you know?

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i_warren July 2 2006, 05:05:17 UTC
Hey. I'm awesome company. Or: my company is awesome. Or: my company could buy and sell your company.

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kara_marie July 2 2006, 05:14:22 UTC

Yeah, probably.

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i_warren July 2 2006, 05:16:06 UTC
We could always merge companies...

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bitter_brother July 2 2006, 06:00:18 UTC
I don't know if that point has been reached until everyone else forgets it too. Stops associating the act with your name, stops cursing you, stops damning you to hell, etc. For some of us, that starts sooner than for the rest of us.

Warren, I can't remember why I did that whole Prom thing. I've taken a lot of drugs since then, yeah, and I've been through a bunch of therapy sessions, so some of it might have been forcibly ejected from my mind. Ushered out, maybe. With a plate of nachos. But, wait, I'm being serious: I don't really remember why I did it. I'm sure I was pissed about the whole Tammy thing and I was probably all pent up. There was probably some leftover fallout from my dad taking off. But whatever the case: everyone here knows that I'm the hellhounds guy. I'm the guy who unsuccessfully attacked the Sunnydale prom. I'm the guy who got beaten up by a 5'2 blonde with a superiority complex, and I don't even really remember whyAnd, the way things are looking, I'll probably be that guy for the rest of my life. Because nobody ( ... )

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i_warren July 2 2006, 06:03:10 UTC
Nachos sounds good.

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bitter_brother July 2 2006, 06:06:52 UTC
You either didn't hear a thing I just said, or you have the attention span of a sheet of toilet paper. Or you're baked. Are you baked?

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i_warren July 2 2006, 06:10:43 UTC
Baking sounds awesome.

And I don't feel like talking about her here. Or ever.

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abetterlie July 2 2006, 06:11:57 UTC
Since you wanted personal experience. Speaking as someone who got the complete mindwipe and then later got the memories back: no, you're not still you anymore. You're either someone else or some kind of hybrid. I guess that's a good thing, in the long term survival sense.

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i_warren July 2 2006, 06:15:30 UTC
Huh.

Interesting angle. I was coming at it from 'forgetting'. Which is a mindwipe no one forced you to get, I guess.

Fuck. That was so retarded. I need to go to sleep.

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singindemonhq July 2 2006, 09:14:46 UTC
"If you don't remember something anymore, at what point does it become like it never happened?

This isn't a rhetorical question; I want honest opinions and personal experience. If there was once one thing that totally defined you, if you get over it, are you still you? If there was a person that was your world, and then they were gone, what's the point of anything anymore? If you find someone new, does the world change? No, obviously it doesn't, that's retarded, but you change. How long does it take before you don't recognize you anymore? Is it scary?"Now that's a lot of questions, quite a task ( ... )

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i_warren July 3 2006, 00:24:08 UTC
That's cold, man. Plus it rhymes.

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singindemonhq July 3 2006, 01:48:11 UTC
I ain't never been known for tact, but you wanted the facts and there they are. You are who who you are and what your memories make you. Even humans are who they think you are, too.

You push that part of your mind and memories away like that, you get the world around you changing so nobody knows who you were and you ain't the same person. He'll still be in there, though.
You think you'd get on well with yourself? Some do.

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i_warren July 3 2006, 17:49:56 UTC
No. Me and me don't get along. And I don't blame me.

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shaman_x July 2 2006, 12:59:03 UTC
If you don't remember something anymore, at what point does it become like it never happened?

Depends on your limit of 'like', I reckon, 'cause you'd never get exact on account of how it happened and even if you actually went back and altered time so it didn't happen, it still happened or you wouldn't have gone back. And that's time travel! So even if everybody forgot about it, it still happened happened. But if all the knock-on effects are minimal (like no one's painted a big 'so-and-so did this-n-that' sign in the middle of time square or whatever) and no one else remembers either, well, that might be like enough to be going on with. But just one person isn't enough. Like, even if you got amnesia, there'd still be people who remembered. Although maybe if you got amnesia and went to a place where no one knew in the first place, then for you it'd be like it never happened, except where it still did and the people back where you came from would still remember. But like that.

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i_warren July 3 2006, 00:23:06 UTC
You bring up a couple of good points. Thanks, dude. Appreciate it. Not that I was considering altering time. Really.

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shaman_x July 3 2006, 08:29:47 UTC
That's good 'cause if TV has taught me nothing else it's that whenever you mess with time, you end with a planet ruled by Nazis.

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i_warren July 3 2006, 17:50:25 UTC
Let's all thank god for TV.

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