Cersei actually has 2 "nice" moments in that episode. The one with Tyrion as you mentioned and the one where she is actually quite honest and kind to Sansa. I'm really struggling to work out what Cersei's intentions for Sansa are, they've got to be more than just she's pretty and will give Joffrey pretty children. Maybe she sees a bit of herself in her? Both "sent away" at a young age perhaps.
I think at this point she does see herself in Sansa, which is ironic given that Cersei's actions are turning Sansa into a copy of herself. Her advice even furthers that.
But really, Sansa is just a vessel to get an heir and keep hold of the Iron Throne, and possibly through the marriage and heir regain control of the North. They possibly believe that with Sansa married to Joffrey and carrying his heir, Robb is less likely to continue to King's Landing and kill them all - or if Robb dies without an heir, they can lay claim to Winterfell. It does nothing to stop Stannis, of course - and for the moment they seem to have forgotten about Robert Baratheon's brother.
As her daughter has now been sent away, much like she was, as a pawn to political ends she may also see Sansa as a bit of a Myrcella substitute.
I always thought it was such an out-of-character thing for Ned Stark to have cheated on his wife. Which is why I'm totally buying into the whole theory on some of the fan forums that Jon Snow isn't actually Ned's bastard son at all - but the son of his dead sister and Rhaegar Targaryan. He would've lied to keep his friend, Robert, from killing his sisters child (or just going berzerk at the fact that his one true love got knocked up by his worst enemy). The later books hint at this possibility in certain places, too.
Warning: possible spoilers as speculationjedsMay 22 2012, 12:02:23 UTC
I have read the theory, and like it, though have avoided mentioning it anywhere. :) If you recall, in the show, as they split at the King's road, Jon to go north and he to go south, Ned says to him "You are a Stark". Carefully chosen words, I think.
I suspect that Ned's sister asked him to take Jon as his own because the lineage also makes him a Targaryen, and every Targaryen child was being slaughtered.
I have my suspicions about where the story is going. It's called "A Song of Ice and Fire" and I don't think it's just a pretty name.
With regards to out of character... Robb "forgets" his vow to marry a Frey and weds Jeyne Westerling instead after getting her pregnant. I think the characters are all human, and sometimes make mistakes, even someone as honourable as Ned.
Re: Warning: possible spoilers as speculationdanaewintersMay 22 2012, 20:24:28 UTC
Whoops - sorry about the spoilers.
As for Rob forgetting his vow, that's the second dumbest thing I've seen a Stark do in this whole series. (No, wait - third. But the other two both involved talking to Cersei.) But I could see why his character did it, especially given the dialogue that happened in this last episode. He's feeling the pressure of being a king, not just a lord, feeling like he could never be the leader his dad was (and look how he turned out), and feels like he just wants to run away from it all. So while he did love the girl, marrying his love was probably just as much about escapism as it was actual affection for her.
Re: Warning: possible spoilers as speculationjedsMay 23 2012, 01:09:18 UTC
Good point. In the book there's not only the position Robb is in but a lot of other stuff going on that motivate him into Jeyne's arms - he's wounded at the Crag and she's tending to him, he's taking milk of the poppy for the wound so he's all drugged, he receives word of Bran and Rickon's deaths at the hand of Theon, and his mother "betrays" him. So the show did a decent job of showing what you talk about, but while I'm no book purist I think they could have done it better
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But really, Sansa is just a vessel to get an heir and keep hold of the Iron Throne, and possibly through the marriage and heir regain control of the North. They possibly believe that with Sansa married to Joffrey and carrying his heir, Robb is less likely to continue to King's Landing and kill them all - or if Robb dies without an heir, they can lay claim to Winterfell. It does nothing to stop Stannis, of course - and for the moment they seem to have forgotten about Robert Baratheon's brother.
As her daughter has now been sent away, much like she was, as a pawn to political ends she may also see Sansa as a bit of a Myrcella substitute.
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I suspect that Ned's sister asked him to take Jon as his own because the lineage also makes him a Targaryen, and every Targaryen child was being slaughtered.
I have my suspicions about where the story is going. It's called "A Song of Ice and Fire" and I don't think it's just a pretty name.
With regards to out of character... Robb "forgets" his vow to marry a Frey and weds Jeyne Westerling instead after getting her pregnant. I think the characters are all human, and sometimes make mistakes, even someone as honourable as Ned.
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As for Rob forgetting his vow, that's the second dumbest thing I've seen a Stark do in this whole series. (No, wait - third. But the other two both involved talking to Cersei.) But I could see why his character did it, especially given the dialogue that happened in this last episode. He's feeling the pressure of being a king, not just a lord, feeling like he could never be the leader his dad was (and look how he turned out), and feels like he just wants to run away from it all. So while he did love the girl, marrying his love was probably just as much about escapism as it was actual affection for her.
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