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vandringar April 7 2010, 14:14:59 UTC
Ahahaha. :)

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banner April 7 2010, 16:26:27 UTC
Nope, don't get it.

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banner April 7 2010, 17:02:21 UTC
Ah, found the video and watched it. Yes what happened there was rather sad, and I have to admit that at least one of the people definitely made a mistake that will probably haunt him the rest of his days. As for the people on the ground, one of them definitely had a rifle or rpg. I noticed that the people who put all the tags on the video did NOT highlight that person, and instead pointed to the photog's camera instead. I also have to wonder why someone would go into a free fire zone with a camera as large as the one that guy had. The gunship crew does not have the enhanced video that the people who made this video used several times to show up nice close ups (and really, if they hadn't zoomed in, enhanced the picture, and labeled it, would you have known those were kids ( ... )

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gerald_duck April 7 2010, 18:20:32 UTC
What, rather than just the ones where there's inconvenient video evidence, you mean?

Why on earth does the US military deserve the benefit of the doubt? They deliberately killed people; by default that is a bad thing to do.

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banner April 7 2010, 22:05:32 UTC
Well one, because -I- used to be in the US military and I know what kind of people are in there. We don't intentionally go killing civilians, and those that do, go to jail or a hangman ( ... )

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gerald_duck April 7 2010, 22:34:42 UTC
The US military does intentionally go killing civilians - as recently as the Vietnam war, which it decided to extend into Cambodia and Laos. Nobody, from the rank and file troops up to Kissinger has ever swung for it.

OK, that was a generation ago, but there's not exactly strong evidence the US military doesn't deliberately kill civilians any more. There's certainly evidence that many US personnel are negligent about the safety of civilians, and at the strategic level, the US invasion of Iraq has cost hundreds of thousands of civilian lives.

I fully agree that your having served in the US military is a useful indicator of the quality of the people it lets in. On previous showing, you're one of the last people I'd expect to handle the situation in Iraq with any degree of tact, sensitivity, compassion, or sense of proportion ( ... )

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Sarcasm not necessarily directed at you ex_ka April 7 2010, 19:07:30 UTC
Oh shit, innocent people died in a war? And here I thought it was going to be like summer camp! Fuck, I better re-think this whole enlisting thing. :>

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gerald_duck April 7 2010, 22:35:34 UTC
War's bad; that's no reason to make it worse.

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ex_ka April 7 2010, 23:04:51 UTC
I'm not going to get in a conversation with you about the motive here. You seem to already have your dead-set opinion and I don't argue with brick walls.

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gerald_duck April 7 2010, 23:07:07 UTC
Ah, the old "I'm not going to get in a conversation with you but…" gambit.

Combined with the "you're very sure you're right, so you're wrong" gambit.

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oddityb April 9 2010, 21:41:17 UTC
Ack! Glen Beck. I've seen enough Daily Show and reddit links to consider him a threat to national sanity.

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