If i'm not wrong, arjlover got everything in a torrent, so the bitlet alternative would be trivial. Sadly, nothing beats the visibility and accesibility of youtube... But yeah, uploading in as many youtube alternatives as possible seems the only alternative. This is the sort of crap that can be expected from funtik, but if soyuzmultfilm is also behind this, someone should hit them in the forehead with a spoon.
The trick with the streaming torrents alternative (bitlet and TS player) is that all films would need to be remuxed to add subtitle streams to them. Arjlover may have everything as torrents, but the videos in his torrents have no subtitles.
For bitlet in particular, I'd need to figure out how to add a subtitle stream to a .ogv file, and so far I've been having problems with ffmpeg2theora.
I'm so sorry for this
anonymous
July 29 2011, 14:16:23 UTC
I'm a fan of russian animation, I was following pavlovich as well, being a 3D artist myself I find lots of inspiration of different cinematographic and cultural visions than the western approaches. I've found that www.veehd.com to be very safe to upload videos and specially since they can stream with divx web player.
In case some videos are copyrighted and they need to be hidden, you can have private videos and only friends can see them, despite sharing the link the user wouldn't be able to see it until he's a friend of the account holder.
Re: I'm so sorry for thisniffiwanJuly 29 2011, 19:42:58 UTC
Thanks. Veehd looks like an interesting place. Although I'm having some trouble accessing it at the moment because it looks like their plugin is not compatible with Firefox 5. Do you know if they support subtitles? (non-hardcoded ones, that is)
Re: I'm so sorry for this
anonymous
July 31 2011, 04:06:02 UTC
I think it's not supported, maybe by using .divx format, it stores the subtitles internally and then they're read back by the divx web player. Other than that i don't know a way to not hardcode the subtitles.
Regarding the plugin, as long as you register with veehd you don't need to install anything but the divx web player. If you're not logged in, it asks you to install some weird c-codec but avoid that at all costs.
Sorry for posting anonymously, for some reason livejournal it's not accepting my openID
GL ill keep an eye on the updates and thanks a lot for taking the time to reupload everything.
Re: I'm so sorry for thisniffiwanJuly 31 2011, 04:32:54 UTC
Ok, I got VeeHD video playback to work - just needed to register, as you said.
I figured out how to "soft-sub" a divx file by using the free Sub2DivX program. Now I'd like to upload a small file to VeeHD to test if the subtitles will show up, but their upload feature has been "temporarily disabled" for the past day, so I guess I'll wait a bit...
I'm re-uploading the videos to the other places bit by bit. Due to my relatively slow upload speeds, I'm only managing about 1-2 of them per day so far.
I also discovered that the Russian subtitles I make in Subtitle Workshop aren't directly compatible with DotSub or Dailymotion; they show up as gibberish. I need to run them through the automatic Cyrillic converter, then they show up fine.
this is terrible. I enjoyed many of the animations you made avaiable, and I can only thing about how much hard work has been lost due to these events... I have never thanked you for this blog, but I feel like this is a good time to do so... thanks from Brazil! I hope the plan works out!
Thanks for the kind words. I am careful to keep backups of everything, so the only hard work that was really lost is the actual act of uploading videos to Youtube (which is still an annoying amount... it does take time). Julia2night may not have been so lucky - last year (or the year before, I forget), she told me that she had no backups of her translations that were taken down before.
I am more worried about all the Youtube discussions that were lost (there were some interesting ones), as well as how many blog posts all throughout the internet that linked to my videos will now have broken links.
Well, the Youtube discussions aren't really "lost" because I at least still have access to them; that was the point of moving away voluntarily instead of waiting for a third strike.
i see, that's good then. This all sounds like such a mess, this studio just coming out of nowhere! I'm glad to know that at least your videos are backed up. And yes, there were some amazing information on the comments, I remember reading very interesting opinions there... I'm just glad then that it wasn't a total loss situation!
What a shame. Let's hope everything will be for the best. Your work of translation and transmission of those russian gems was a great way to make it discover to people who had no other way to see them. I thank you from France for what you (and the other translators) have done, and hope for the best! Payoti
Although I lost a lot of contacts and time spent on uploading the films I think I am going to have fun starting all over again. I'll steer clear of Soyuzmultfilm content for a while. The main loss in my opinion is for people that miss out on seeing the films.
guys, I just went to pavovlich74 account to see his feed and got desperated when I saw his account was deleted. I didn't finish reading niffiwan's text, but I am already enraged with this company. They don't have the right to stop the spread of russian animations, even because, as was said, the directors gave the authorization for the uploading of the movies. We should mobilize ourselves against this company, see what we can do. we can't let things like this. you guys have all my support for anything you need about spreading what happenned and getting support of others, signatures, I don't know... here is my e-mail (msn): roxxy_riot@hotmail.com you can contact me if you want! I will stick around. peace.
pam1974, you speak from the heart, but it's important to understand the situation also... legally, anybody at all has the right to take down the translations I posted. All it takes is one notice. In that light, it's a wonder that they stayed up for 5 years, considering that any one of the over 2 million views that my original account had could have lodged a complaint.
Even if the directors gave approval as happened in some cases (often this is impossible because the directors are dead), in almost all cases the official rights would belong not to the directors but to the studio that they worked for, until 50-70 years after the director's death, depending on country (and it keeps getting extended).
This means that if the law were followed, there would be about 50 Russian animated films translated to English available (mostly on the DVDs of the now-defunct company Films by Jove), instead of nearly 300 as is the case. I think that in this case, the law censors communication between cultures while not having any offsetting benefit, even
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I would understand it if it was Soyuzmultfilm who would actually claim the rights for these cartoons. But, as I suppose, they just made a deal with a clever marketing agency (and Funtik is none than that). Besides, all they had to do was to ask nicely, and maybe establish some constructive dialogue.
PS: the deletion was quite random. On my Soyuzmultfilm channel, two of the "Robbery..." segments were claimed; and another two were left untouched.
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do not have any suggestions for now
may be it can somehow go through Creative Commons
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Creative Commons has no relation here; it's for original works.
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Sadly, nothing beats the visibility and accesibility of youtube... But yeah, uploading in as many youtube alternatives as possible seems the only alternative.
This is the sort of crap that can be expected from funtik, but if soyuzmultfilm is also behind this, someone should hit them in the forehead with a spoon.
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For bitlet in particular, I'd need to figure out how to add a subtitle stream to a .ogv file, and so far I've been having problems with ffmpeg2theora.
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In case some videos are copyrighted and they need to be hidden, you can have private videos and only friends can see them, despite sharing the link the user wouldn't be able to see it until he's a friend of the account holder.
Eduardo Altamirano
www.cgmodelers.com
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Regarding the plugin, as long as you register with veehd you don't need to install anything but the divx web player. If you're not logged in, it asks you to install some weird c-codec but avoid that at all costs.
Sorry for posting anonymously, for some reason livejournal it's not accepting my openID
GL ill keep an eye on the updates and thanks a lot for taking the time to reupload everything.
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I figured out how to "soft-sub" a divx file by using the free Sub2DivX program. Now I'd like to upload a small file to VeeHD to test if the subtitles will show up, but their upload feature has been "temporarily disabled" for the past day, so I guess I'll wait a bit...
I'm re-uploading the videos to the other places bit by bit. Due to my relatively slow upload speeds, I'm only managing about 1-2 of them per day so far.
I also discovered that the Russian subtitles I make in Subtitle Workshop aren't directly compatible with DotSub or Dailymotion; they show up as gibberish. I need to run them through the automatic Cyrillic converter, then they show up fine.
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I have never thanked you for this blog, but I feel like this is a good time to do so... thanks from Brazil! I hope the plan works out!
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I am more worried about all the Youtube discussions that were lost (there were some interesting ones), as well as how many blog posts all throughout the internet that linked to my videos will now have broken links.
Well, the Youtube discussions aren't really "lost" because I at least still have access to them; that was the point of moving away voluntarily instead of waiting for a third strike.
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And yes, there were some amazing information on the comments, I remember reading very interesting opinions there... I'm just glad then that it wasn't a total loss situation!
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I thank you from France for what you (and the other translators) have done, and hope for the best!
Payoti
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The main loss in my opinion is for people that miss out on seeing the films.
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you can contact me if you want! I will stick around.
peace.
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Even if the directors gave approval as happened in some cases (often this is impossible because the directors are dead), in almost all cases the official rights would belong not to the directors but to the studio that they worked for, until 50-70 years after the director's death, depending on country (and it keeps getting extended).
This means that if the law were followed, there would be about 50 Russian animated films translated to English available (mostly on the DVDs of the now-defunct company Films by Jove), instead of nearly 300 as is the case. I think that in this case, the law censors communication between cultures while not having any offsetting benefit, even ( ... )
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PS: the deletion was quite random. On my Soyuzmultfilm channel, two of the "Robbery..." segments were claimed; and another two were left untouched.
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