men who have had sex with men banned from donating to cbs, gay virgins and closet cases a-ok!

[shelovesjurgen]

i took this from this website - its author was on a local news channel this morning.
Canadian Blood Services explicitly states: "all men who have had sex with another man, even once, since 1977 are indefinitely deferred [from donating blood]." The organization's rationale for adopting this policy is allegedly based on information that suggests a

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[go_team_venture]

There's a whole bunch of different reasons you can't give blood. Fresh tattoo or piercing, sex with men, sex for money or sex with someone who has sex for money, sex with a needle drug user or being a needle drug user, etc. I can't give blood myself, because I match up on several of those.

From what I understand, the reason they can't just test the blood for HIV is that it can take so long to show up on tests after infection occurs.

[holden_wake]

That was my take somewhat as well. Perhaps other high risk groups such as aboriginals or those from countries with high infection rates are also not on the list acceptable donors? It may not be discriminatory just to gays but to all groups with high risk. So there may be good scientific reasons as opposed to homophobic ones.

I signed the petition anyways, since online petitions are harmless in effectiveness.

"hot and steamy unprotected gay sex since 1977"

[trop_de_phan]

this pissed me off quite a lot.
for reals.
fuck.

TEST THE FUCKING BLOOD YOU FUCKING IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS BULLSHIT IS PROMOTING HATE. DON'T THEY KNOW THAT????
ACTUALLY THEY PROBABLY DO. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE DOING IT.

HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE

Re: "hot and steamy unprotected gay sex since 1977"

[epictetus_rex]

Re: "hot and steamy unprotected gay sex since 1977"

[shelovesjurgen]

[epictetus_rex]

"Given that 54.3% of HIV positive tests in 2004 were attributed to causes other than MSM activity, all Canadian blood donors should be equally subject to rigorous testing and screening."

Oh, that's HILARIOUS. Sorry, whoever this is gets a zero. If, say, 10% of sex is hetero, there is no way that 45.7% of all HIV should be caused by MSM activity (which is what they're claiming, if you actually read it).

You also can't give blood if you've been in a malarial country. You also have to pay more car insurance as a young male because you're in a high risk group. Welcome to life. HIV is waaay more prevalent amongst gay men, as anyone in an HIV crisis centre or STD testing centre will tell you.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/msm.htm :

In the 35 areas with long-term, confidential name-based HIV reporting, an estimated 19,575 MSM (18,203 MSM and 1,372 MSM who inject drugs) received a diagnosis of HIV/AIDS, accounting for 70% of all male

[shelovesjurgen]

but what about closet cases? are they going to install a fabulous-detector at the doors?

[whatsinaname]

yeah this is fucked up because heterosexual women are the fastest and largest group with new hiv infections. how about banning women as well? oh, there wouldn't be anyone left. oops.

[t_mobile_whore]

actually, the blood is already tested for hiv (at least in the us, so i suspect the same is in canda). nevertheless, you still run a 1 in 2.5 million chance of getting infected with hiv per transfusion (compare with 1 in 13 million of dying in on airplane flight and -roughly- 1 in 60,000 of dying in a car accident). it seems that getting a blood transfusion is not very dangerous, but definetily not as safe as it could be. so the policies of "test blood for aids" and "make it illegal for high-risk groups to donate blood" are not mutually exclusive.

[whatsinaname]

i tried to donate once ( i almost fainted so i couldn't). the screening process is intense. yes there is an hiv test, but it is not 100% as you said, they also make you fill out a ton of questionaires, the process takes over an hour every time. The nurse told me that some people actually use donating blood as a way to find out if they're hiv positive, not wanting to go to their own doctor. crazy.

[t_mobile_whore]

crazy indeed.

there are clinics that give out hiv tests for free without asking for id. i went to one a few years back to get tested. i couldn't stomach the two week wait for the results though. this one had the option of paying 100 bucks to have results within an hour. that was a scary hour.

[shelovesjurgen]

well stop fucking sluts all the time, you dirty bastard