Why I don't identify with the radical feminist movement. Fiction.

Apr 03, 2008 20:55

Here is a vitriolic deconstruction of Firefly, filled with hate and rage.
http://users.livejournal.com/_allecto_/34718.html?thread=134814#t134814
I stopped reading and started skimming a page or two in, it's just that bad. And then I ran across this gem:
"Let me just say now that I have never ( Read more... )

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outotoro April 4 2008, 03:01:41 UTC
Go read the Honor Harrington Series. It starts with "On Basilik Station" by David Weber. Good, good stuff - and honor is awesome.

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tsarren April 4 2008, 03:14:27 UTC
Thanks for the recommendation.

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maera_danann April 6 2008, 01:03:13 UTC
and i second it, along with the very very fantastic tanya huff books, valor's choice and the better part of valor.
i think you'd really enjoy the huff -- the hero is a staff seargant and senior NCO who kicks some major ass. very good writing, from my not-so-military perspective.

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aristos1 April 4 2008, 03:02:27 UTC
Was that 6-book series by Hamilton by chance?

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tsarren April 4 2008, 03:13:59 UTC
Peter H, yes. Best sci-fi I've read in years. Did I miss any of the women in authority? I've noticed that in attempting to remember, I'm getting some crossover with his Pandora's Star & Judas Unchained.

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aristos1 April 4 2008, 03:36:02 UTC
It's been a while since I've read it, but I think you mentioned them all.

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walbourn April 4 2008, 03:15:39 UTC
I would suggest some CJ Cherryh, particularly the Gates of Ivrel series. Morgaine is a bit of a mystery character and the reader's perspective is her male servant/companion, but she's defintely a hero in my mind. There are also some great female characters in her Downbelow Station setting, although I liked Heavy Time more than the others.

A lot of my favorite authors have great female hero characters, but the story is seldom told 'through' their perspective unfortunately.

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tsarren April 4 2008, 03:18:28 UTC
Thanks. :) I've read one book by Cherryh, and it was rather flat sci-fi and didn't do much for me, but I will look for his/her other works.

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fox_c April 4 2008, 18:11:28 UTC
Her, and she teaches at OCU. I personally find her fantasy much better than her sci fi

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tashar April 4 2008, 03:44:13 UTC
soonerfan645 came running into the room to let me know about this post, and pointed out that (IRL) couples like him and me, as well as SNJ and her husband (you may have seen them at the wedding last weekend), are living breathing examples. But you know that; I feel bad that the author of that post you linked to doesn't have that in her experience (quite the opposite, in fact).

I'm actually amused by this rant (at least the author has the grace to admit that it is one)...because frankly, if there's any beef we, the audience might have with the characters, it's that not one of the characters is phenotypically Chinese. So colored by one's own (extreme) experiences...and wow, what commentary on poor Mrs. Wheedon.

I just can't take what's written seriously. Not my brand of feminism; what's the point of feminism if we're neutering everything else, including masculinity, in the process? The point is balance and equality, methinks...but what do I know. I'm just a poor brown female, save me from my white oppressor spouse. *rolls eyes ( ... )

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kuoirad April 4 2008, 15:25:30 UTC
"I'm just a poor brown female, save me from my white oppressor spouse. *rolls eyes*"

No no, you're a poor brown female being oppressed (and raped, I guess, by the "radical feminist" definition of rape) by another (essentially) brown spouse. I would think that even Cubans are considered "brown". *shrugs*

Anyway.

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tsarren April 5 2008, 03:40:08 UTC
what's the point of feminism if we're neutering everything else, including masculinity, in the process?

Exactly.

One of these days, when I'm older and grayer, I might have earned the privilege. I hope you'll tell me, if and when I do.

*smile* I'll be happy to do so, my friend.

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tashar April 6 2008, 05:39:28 UTC
Kushiel's Dart (by Jacqueline Carey) has a strong female hero - but it's fantasy, not sci-fi.

Oh, and I have no idea if you watch any network television - but I so heart Abby from NCIS (in my userpic). The actress who plays her is actually trained as a forensic pathologist from LSU...and she plays a totally cute goth forensic pathologist on NCIS.

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terriblelynne April 4 2008, 03:46:08 UTC
I remember reading an article by an ill-used black former porn star, years ago, about how all porn involving black women was about white men dominating (in a bad way)/owning/demeaning black women. I remember thinking, "what about all-female porn? what about all-black porn? what if it's made by and for those demographics?"

I had the same feeling when I saw Spike Lee's _Jungle Fever_, which is entirely about how black male/white female relationships are all about sexual curiosity and can't work, EVER, because that's all there is.

*sigh* I really wish people would quit universalizing their bad experiences that way.

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tsarren April 5 2008, 03:41:29 UTC
*nodnod* I wish people would quit universalizing all their experiences, but just the bad ones would be an excellent start.

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