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[unrulyjuliette]

Many people voted for George W. Bush because they thought it'd be fun to have a beer with him. A lot of people want to vote for McCain/Palin who didn't want to before... In The Metro this morning I read about a woman who was going to sit out this election, but is now voting Republican becaus Palin is a "down to earth mom like me." While

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[ammre]

I have no love for the woman. Just because she has a vagina doesn't mean she has woman's best interests in mind. I'd never vote Cindy Phelps into office just because she was a uterus carrying member. The fact that they want to take away incentives for companies who offer healthcare plans terrifies me. The fact that she can see rape as less important then standard crime scares me. The fact that mccain consistently dances round answering anything weirds me out. The fact that abstinence only education is huge and no one seems to focus on government restructure or funding of social programs worries me

[unrulyjuliette]

Thanks, Anne. I agree with you. I honestly have to do more research into Biden. I know that he has run before .. I know he has a lot of experience. That's all I know. If Hillary was picked it might have made some people happy, but it also would have been obvious pandering to the media and the public. Sometimes that's okay, but I'm guessing this was more strategic in the long run

[ammre]

sorry, I didn't mean to political vomit on you and I don't expect anyone to conform to my ideas, I was just pointing out how that woman is eeevil and a mccain political trick.

[lostinthemist]

the belief that women should only have an abortion if their life is in danger

She doesn't believe in abortion even in the case of rape or incest. I can deal with people who are against abortion. I can respect that. But in these circumstances.. ridiculous. I'm sure if she was raped and became pregnant (maybe even with a ::gasp:: black baby) she would change her mind.

Sarah Palin scares the shit out of me. I was all about Hillary, but at this point, Obama is indeed the lesser of two evils. I don't want to go back to coat hanger abortions and gays having to live in the closet because they may be arrested or as Whoopi Goldberg said to McCain on the view.. "Do I have to be worried about slavery?!" Of course, there may be some exaggeration there, but you get the picture.

I'll stop now because I'm way too passionate about this (and am not even as informed as I should be). :)

[back_to_or]

Not to jump in (cuz we don't know each other), but I think you're giving the President a bit too much credit - no president has the power to repeal Roe v. Wade or change state laws (which have legalized "sodomy").

I don't want a Republican elected, but if Bush couldn't get all of that stuff turned around (and I'm sure he would've liked to) then I don't think anyone else will be able to either.

[lostinthemist]

Just as the president had the power to send the troops to Iraq, the president has the power to send them back home.. however, according to Sarah Palin, "Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God," she said. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's plan." She also believes that when God's plan is for them to come home, that's when they will. Sorry, but that makes me do one of those "WHAAAAT?!"'s because it will be her office that decides to bring them home.. and if she doesn't get that message from God, then she doesn't do her job? It's just crazy to me. I understand that there's checks and balances and all of that good stuff, but the President/VP have to have some sort of input on what goes on or no one would care who we elect.

[back_to_or]

I agree, though I wish I understood the extent of what their power is more fully. Although, I think the president actually has the most power when it comes to military/foreign policy stuff (since s/he's the head of the armed forces), as opposed to what his/her power is in relation to domestic stuff, which has to go through congress (even though technically declaring war has to go through congress... so technically we haven't).

Also, I agree that most of Palin's religious views are, like, insane.

[electroblood]

I really was not too crazy for mccain one bit for a long time. I don't like obama because of a list of reasons that I'll keep to myself (because I know last election we got into a few arguments that I think tore us up a bit), but one is that as much as he talks about change all the time, if he were to win i hope to actually see if he makes change for good. I think people no matter who they are can talk about their hopes and dreams, but until we see proof of the change it's hard to really want to just put faith in someone like that especially in a race for power of "the throne" if that makes sense

[unrulyjuliette]

I feel the same way about Obama. (we agree!) Palin hasn't been governor for that long and her time in office is shrouded in shady activity and intimidation.
I'm voting for a third party candidate just b/c I'm so displeased with both.

[classy_dame]

You know, I was starting to come around on McCain...don't get me wrong, I'm planning on voting for Obama, but I was starting to be okay with the thought of him potentially being the next president. But I really passionately hate Sarah Palin. I disagree with her on so many huge issues. The creationism thing scares me...that an adult who seriously believes we should teach CREATIONISM in schools could actually potentially be the vice president of the U.S. really astonishes me. And the sex ed thing infuriates me...especially because her teen daughter might not be pregnant if someone had showed her how to use a condom. And being against abortion and gay marriage...those are two issues that I'm very passionate about because I feel like they are so personal, it shouldn't be up to the government to decide. To be honest though, I'm naive, and I've never understood how someone could be against things like gay marriage or sex ed.

Also, I just really don't like her. :)

[unrulyjuliette]

Liz! I miss you and yoga.

And I don't like her either. Definitely not someone I could see myself shooting a moose with. ;)

[back_to_or]

I'm interested by the creationism thing, because I've not found one single source that has been able to confirm that she believes in it. I'm annoyed by the idea of intelligent design, but can abide it far better than creationism. And, which does she want taught? That the earth was created 6,000 years ago, or that we evolved the way that scientists said, and that God was the one that set that in motion.

I'm not a fan of either theory, but one is reasonable (from a religious perspective) and one is bat-shit crazy.

[back_to_or]

I think Obama didn't choose a woman for a VP because he probably didn't think he could get elected with both a minority person and a woman on the ticket (sad, but that's my theory).

Biden seems like a good guy - he has a lot of foreign policy experience, so I think that's why he picked him, which I think would be a nice balance.

I think that was probably also McCain's intent in picking Palin. Concentrating on the social stuff (as well as getting a woman, and therefore women's votes, supposedly) I mean. I can't seem to get myself to hate Palin, maybe because people are so bound and determined to kick the metaphorical shit out of her, and I hate seeing that happen. I also just don't really hate people very often.

But yeah, I don't hate McCain either. But I'm voting for Obama.